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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/11 20:09:47
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Been Around the Block
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2000 Pts - Orks Roster - Looted Armored Kompany
HQ: Warboss (1#, 60 Pts)
1 Warboss @ 60 Pts
Choppa; Slugga; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
HQ: Warboss (1#, 60 Pts)
1 Warboss @ 60 Pts
Choppa; Slugga; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
Elite: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Elite: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Elite: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Troops: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Count as Troop Troops; Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Troops: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Count as Troop Troops; Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 220 Pts)
1 Battlewagon @ 220 Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; Killkannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 220 Pts)
1 Battlewagon @ 220 Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; Killkannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 220 Pts)
1 Battlewagon @ 220 Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; Killkannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Troops: Gretchin (11#, 40 Pts)
10 Gretchin @ 40 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Squig Hound
Troops: Gretchin (11#, 40 Pts)
10 Gretchin @ 40 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Squig Hound
Troops: Gretchin (11#, 40 Pts)
10 Gretchin @ 40 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Squig Hound
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tvtropes wrote:Yes, that's right, Games Workshop has managed to take a race of omnicidal zombie robots and make it more GRIMDARK. This troper's impressed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/11 20:16:38
Subject: Re:Looted Armored Kompany
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
UK
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8 battlewagons look nasty but youve got 27 models with a combined 58 wounds for 2000pt. For orks.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2008/12/11 20:17:41
H.B.M.C. wrote:Friend of mine just sent me this:
"The Tyranid Codex, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this codex is the worst hell on earth... Hope. ." Too be fair.. it's all worked out quite well!
Heh. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/11 20:20:30
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
Spreading the word of the Turtle Pie
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But they're dead 'ard. And krumpy. And that's what matters!
You might want to throw in some killkannons and deff rollas. Nobz may be dead 'ard, but even they need some support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/11 20:52:30
Subject: Re:Looted Armored Kompany
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Been Around the Block
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I do have 3 kilkannons and 5 deff rollas, you know.
Is there anything I can do to make this list better without getting rid of any bws?
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tvtropes wrote:Yes, that's right, Games Workshop has managed to take a race of omnicidal zombie robots and make it more GRIMDARK. This troper's impressed.
Comissar Ciaphas Cain, "Hero" of the "Imperium" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/11 20:53:36
Subject: Re:Looted Armored Kompany
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Skink Armed with a Blowpipe
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FYI those Warbosses would be 105 point each. It looks like you just forgot to add in the cost of those Power Klaws.
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/11 20:54:43
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Long-Range Ultramarine Land Speeder Pilot
Whitebear lake Minnesota.
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that looks like a fun list and a little different then most orky lists i like it.
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2500pts Bretonnians |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 06:20:05
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Wicked Warp Spider
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No support, way too many points spent on Battlewagons - esp. non-transport BWs (yes, I love them too but they are WAY overpriced), Bosses are overpriced, low model count.
Take out the Attack Squigs (that's 30pts for only 2 extra attacks), Eavy Armor and PKs - these points are better spent on Mega-Armor. Consider mounting your Nobz in Trukks (which are faster and cheaper than BWs). Up the model count in all mobs to take advantage of the Mob Rule rule. If you must mount your Nobz in BWs, take out the 3 KK-armed BWs and consider either Lootas or Big Gunz for long-range fire support. If you feel the need to use Nobz exclusively, you should take AT LEAST ONE Nob Biker Mob (the extra Toughness/Dakka, maneuverability, and Exhaust Cloud cover save are invaluable).
BTW, if this is a 2K list, you're 10pts over. Personally that wouldn't even fly in a pick-up game for me, let alone serious play.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 13:57:34
Subject: Re:Looted Armored Kompany
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Looks pretty good, assuming those Deff' Rolla's work against vehicles.
I'd drop 'eavy armour from the nobz and reduce the squad sizes to minimum size. They will die if they get out and without any weapons they're no good anyway. Perhaps give every nob a kombi-skorcha for some more anti-infantry (you only have the killkannons at the moment). With any left over points I'd consider taking three cheap troops choices (minimum size boyz or gretchin) to stick into your heavy support battlewagons. That way you'll have another three scoring units.
I don't know how many points this'll be. If you got a decent amount of left over points after this you might consider beefing up one of the nobz squads (more nobz and some weapons) and riding both warbosses with them to make a decent cc unit.
Hope this has been helpful
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 19:41:13
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Been Around the Block
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I don't think this list is viable with Airmaniac's strategy at anything other then 2250.
An alternate list would be 8x shooty wagons 5x min nobz 2x naked warboss, buy some cheap upgrades.
ancientsociety , I don't think you understand the point of this list. The point isn't 5x nobs. The point is 8x bw. You can tell because of the name.
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tvtropes wrote:Yes, that's right, Games Workshop has managed to take a race of omnicidal zombie robots and make it more GRIMDARK. This troper's impressed.
Comissar Ciaphas Cain, "Hero" of the "Imperium" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 20:09:41
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Wicked Warp Spider
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BillTheManiac wrote:I don't think this list is viable with Airmaniac's strategy at anything other then 2250.
An alternate list would be 8x shooty wagons 5x min nobz 2x naked warboss, buy some cheap upgrades.
ancientsociety , I don't think you understand the point of this list. The point isn't 5x nobs. The point is 8x bw. You can tell because of the name.
Really!? Huh, hadn't noticed.
I'm just giving you my perspective as a long-time Ork player. I've used nearly every unit in the Ork dex. I can guarantee you that you won't win very many games with this list. You have too few non-vehicle models and everything is costed too high. Good luck though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 20:43:19
Subject: Re:Looted Armored Kompany
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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I can guarantee you can't take Kill Kannons on Nob Transport Battlewagons  which makes me cry
No more armored top silliness! Orks drive to where they need to krump, then jump out! Unless they are shootaz....and even then...
Maxing out BW's slots is good. On all of them, take 2 Big Shootaz, Deffrolla, Armored Plates. Grot rigga is meh, because it repairs in the shooting phase now...after your movement. So you get immobilized, sit there during your movement, sit there and maybe repair during shooting, then it's your opponents turn again. To shoot it. And this time could be when it explodes, and all your happy Greenskin friends get fried up in a Battlewagon bonfire  Take 2 big shootaz as that is 2 weapon Destroyed results that don't end up being an immediate immobilised. Take more if you are feeling yellow and proppa like a Bad Moon
Refactor those in, and post again. I am interested in what you come up with next. The battlewagon blitz can work. Have you thought of....MEGANOBZ!!! Manz in all those Battlewagons....RIP TEAR SHRED...but first, don't forget shoot! They are twin linked as well
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"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness. ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 22:18:56
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Been Around the Block
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see.... now I'm conflicted between DakkaDakka Ork Tactica advice and Dex advice.
My shooty wagons are armored tops, because no one is supposed to jump out.
Orkiness justification: We looted dis Leman Russ an it has nice tuff armor. No need to ruin it, we'z gonna hide an shoot! Dakka Dakka Dakka!
DDOT says grot riggers are cheap and occasionally do something useful, save a gun.
DDOT says big shootas are overpriced on battlewagons.
At 2000 I don't really have the points for any dedicated assault. At 2250 I could fit them in, but I'd have slightly less tankspam advantage. Which one do you think the list is more powerful with?
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tvtropes wrote:Yes, that's right, Games Workshop has managed to take a race of omnicidal zombie robots and make it more GRIMDARK. This troper's impressed.
Comissar Ciaphas Cain, "Hero" of the "Imperium" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 23:36:07
Subject: Re:Looted Armored Kompany
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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5 points is overpriced for a Big Shoota? Grot Riggas can fix guns? No, that is incorrectomundo. Also, if it has 'Ardcase, you can only shoot out of firepoints. Booooring. Well, it's also a bad idea since Orks are BS2. Make it open topped, then they can all shoot. Ork shooty armies do not do well unless there is ALOT of shooting going on.
I can't BELIEVE the tactica would say anything like that. I have to go read it, that is just silliness.
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"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness. ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/12 23:52:31
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Bounding Assault Marine
Los Angeles
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I think alot of you guys are stick in the "Orks need to be green tide to win" mentality.
this is what I would do with this concept
2000 Pts - Orks Roster - Unnamed
HQ: Warboss (1#, 60 Pts)
1 Warboss @ 60 Pts
Choppa; Slugga; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
HQ: Warboss (1#, 60 Pts)
1 Warboss @ 60 Pts
Choppa; Slugga; Stikkbombs; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
Elite: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Elite: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Elite: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Troops: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Count as Troop Troops; Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Troops: Nobz (4#, 220 Pts)
3 Nobz @ 220 Pts
Count as Troop Troops; Choppa (x3); Slugga (x3); Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Waaagh!
1 Battlewagon @ [160] Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 220 Pts)
1 Battlewagon @ 220 Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; Killkannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 220 Pts)
1 Battlewagon @ 220 Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; Killkannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Heavy Support: Battlewagon (1#, 220 Pts)
1 Battlewagon @ 220 Pts
Big Shoota (x4); Kannon; Killkannon; 'Ard Case; Deff Rolla; Red Paint Job
Troops: Gretchin (11#, 40 Pts)
10 Gretchin @ 40 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Squig Hound
Troops: Gretchin (11#, 40 Pts)
10 Gretchin @ 40 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Squig Hound
Troops: Gretchin (11#, 40 Pts)
10 Gretchin @ 40 Pts
Grot Blasta; It's a Grot's Life
1 Runtherd @ [10] Pts
Grabba Stikk (x1); Slugga; Furious Charge; Mob Rule; Squig Hound
Total Roster Cost: 2000
8 battlewagons, 5 scoring, a lot of av14 to get though.
32 twinlinked big shootas are no joke, 8 kannons and 3 killkannons are no joke either.
this army in all about shooting, then krumping with deffrollas when they get too close.
this list does not have answers for all comers, like a LR list, be even against a land raider list, you have 8 AV14 vehicles you need to stop from deffrollin' you.
looks like fun, and a nice change of pace for orks.
I say DO IT!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/13 02:02:20
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Been Around the Block
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that looks great.
Remember it does have a name it's a looted armored kompany!
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tvtropes wrote:Yes, that's right, Games Workshop has managed to take a race of omnicidal zombie robots and make it more GRIMDARK. This troper's impressed.
Comissar Ciaphas Cain, "Hero" of the "Imperium" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/13 04:22:48
Subject: Re:Looted Armored Kompany
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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No Green Tide for me! I am a Dakka Dakka Mega Armor kinda Ork!
Big Shootaz aren't twin linked on a Battlewagon. You can get twin linked on Bikes or Warbuggies, but not Battlewagons
There still isn't enough shooty there, but it's hard in a list with that amount of points. And if you are just sitting back waiting for them to come to you, Deffrollaz are a waste. What is nice (and expensive) is the Battle Bunker. Battlewagon with 4 Big Shootaz, Kannon and Killkannon. Pack it with 11 Lootaz and a Big Mek with KFF. 370 points. Thats 12 Str 5 Ap5 Shots, 1 Frag/Krak launcher, a Str 7 Ap2 Blast Template, and 11-33 Str7 ap4 shots getting an obscured 4+ Save. Now if you add on 2 more of those units within 6 inches of the one with the KFF, you are looking pretty at 720 points for the whole package and SERIOUS Dakka! But...you are using 3 Elites choices which means down 3 battlewagons.
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"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness. ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/12/13 15:19:03
Subject: Looted Armored Kompany
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Been Around the Block
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Sorry, gotta have 8 bws, it's the rules.
Stelek suggests:
Make all the battlewagons look like this:
1 Battlewagon @ [155] Pts
Big Shoota (x2); 'Ard Case; Armour Plates; Deff Rolla; Grot Rigger; Red Paint Job
Buy a bunch of shoota-skorchas on the nobs. Run up, deff rola + suicide scorch attack.
Oh, and PKs on the warbosses.
I prefer killkannons.
I do have 3 battle bunkers, but they're filed with suicide gretchin.
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tvtropes wrote:Yes, that's right, Games Workshop has managed to take a race of omnicidal zombie robots and make it more GRIMDARK. This troper's impressed.
Comissar Ciaphas Cain, "Hero" of the "Imperium" |
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