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As the topic says, I've grown interested in Warhammer Fantasy and was looking to start up a army. Obviously, I'm interested in either Skaven or Dark Elves and was wondering what experiences have you had with both armies? Are they fun to play/play against? Are they somewhat competitive (not too important but I'd be happy with a 60/40 win-loss ratio)?

Right now I'm leaning to Skaven (I love their fluff/models/hordes/freaky guns) and was wondering what do you all like about them?

I like playing with hordes, crazy weapons, and I want to have an army that isn't "point and click".

I play skaven and love them, Also they are in line for a new army book soon.

Clthomps wrote:I play skaven and love them, Also they are in line for a new army book soon.

Really? Because if they are going to be updated (and not going to be squatted/chaos dwarfed) I'll have to go with them, because I love their models.

What type of army do you play?

Both armies will give you a good chance to win vs many armies. Unless the army is particularly bad, you will find that generalship is more important in win/loss ratio.

As for the two armies you picked out: skaven have a number of competitive builds, but lets be honest, they lend themselves to a horde army just on how bad the basic guy is, and how cheap you are getting him. They have a number of very interesting units, wacky special rules, and some things some would call Certainly entertaining, but personally not my choice.

Dark elves are a new book, and have what some people call codex creep. I call it they don't suck anymore. Just about everything in the book is good. They are good/competent in all phases of the game. The biggest weakness is durability, T3 with underwhelming armor doesn't last long. They have a good assortment of monster type creatures, and there is a large number of effective builds that can be built out them. Just off the top my head they can field the typical MSU army, a rank and file type army, a fast mounted army, the monster heavy army, the chariot army (8 possible chariots pulled by cold ones!), and the magic and shooty army. Their rules for magic and the power of darkness spell can let them clean up in the magic phase if you really want to. If your group allows special characters, DE have some really good ones.

Mekniakal wrote:Because if they are going to be updated (and not going to be squatted/chaos dwarfed)

The skaven wont get the axe as they are one of the corner stones of warhammer world and have a nice concept as a army.