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This just kinda came about while bored, as something to paint. I'm going to model it as red scorpions, so the hot and spicy part still fits.


HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 Pts)

Troops: Tactical Squad (10#, 185 Pts)
Flamer MM PW

Troops: Tactical Squad (10#, 185 Pts)
Flamer MM PW

Heavy Support: Land Raider Redeemer (1#, 250 Pts)
Multi Melta

Heavy Support: Land Raider Redeemer (1#, 250 Pts)
Multi Melta

Elite: Terminator Assault Squad (6#, 440 Pts)
5x THs
Redeemer with MM

Total Roster Cost: 1500

I think it's actually....pretty good! At least for 1500. Everything rides in a redeemer, and almost everything is twin linked. I know the redeemer cannons arent, but thats ok.

Whatcha think?

a few anti tank weapons will destroy 1/3rd of your army in 1 turn ( the 2 RRR ). then the rest would be easily overwhelmed.
might be abit overkill to have 2 LRR with multimelta,
maybe replace 1 LRR and the termie squad with more tactical squads?

Luna hound... um either you're very good, or very cynical, or something else entirely. 3 Land raiders is very good in such a small game. And it would be a very good round of shooting that see's 2 land raiders dead. This list is really cool because it is very scary, very risky... but in a good way, and almost religiously follows the fluff of the Salamanders.

Cool list

LunaHound - You are correct in that it is overkill, but it is mainly for fluff. I mean, I could take different LRs but then its just boring to me really.

Shrike - Yeah, you have to remember this is 1500. To have four in 1500 would be A+, awesometastic, but you can't have much else unless it is DH.

I may just say forget it and up it to 2k. Thats what, another redeemer and Termie unit?

Looks really good for salamanders 1500. I am curious if your going to be puting the tac squads in the LRR's. If your bumping it to 2k I would suggest (my opinion) that you invest in more scoring troops choices. With 2/3 of games being objectives you need more troopos to cap them and then have a few more to take the fight elsewhere.

I am not sure of salamader fluff besides the flamers but Maybe some other speciatly infantry (sternguard w/flamers?)

If that makes no sense I'll understand bc I don't own the new dex bc I play DA and have to use my own still.

Shrike78 wrote:Luna hound... um either you're very good, or very cynical, or something else entirely. 3 Land raiders is very good in such a small game. And it would be a very good round of shooting that see's 2 land raiders dead. This list is really cool because it is very scary, very risky... but in a good way, and almost religiously follows the fluff of the Salamanders.

Cool list

what i said have nothing to do with been good or cynical.
his 2 LRR adds up to indeed 1/3rd of his 1500 list.
armies that carry lots of anti tank weaponry can indeed destroy the
2 LRR if left in the open early in game.

whether or not its anything to do with fluff i did not take into account
since he didnt say it is. ( he even said he is just bored ).

neither did i make any negative criticism towards the list.
i merely suggested scenario / situations that occure more then not.

GMMStudios if my post was by any chance really negative i apologize now
and i swear to you that i was only trying to help.

*edit my bad, 3 LRR not 2. well its over 1/3rd i guess

Lascannons bouce of LR these days, but melta's dont, try and stay away from melta weilding squads, kinds hard as you got two flamer templates, looks good though.

If you think it is easy to destroy 3 Land Raiders in one turn of shooting at 1500 points, i want to see your army list. It is the second most resiliant model in the game. Not trying to attack you, its just that it would take extreme luck to knock out three Land Raiders that fast. Maybe a boradside heavy Tau army could do it on turn one, but that is about the only thing i can think of.

The list is tough, although in my opinion you would be better off with LRC´s as they are more efficient on the move and i believe, flat out more efficient than the LRR, or, with two LRC´s and a normal LR, as it gives you more flexibility.

However, honestly, this list is pretty damn nails. I was thining of something similar as at that points level not much can hurt your tanks. Plus, you have defense against psychic powers and with nothing but armor value 14 targets to shoot at, you nullify the vast majority of weapons in the game. I honestly think that a list like this will be one of the main tourny list for marines in times to come as it has so many strengths.

Mobility, resiliant scoring units, firepower, a tough assault unit to clear objectives, few kill points.

The only thing you need to fear really is close ranged melta weapons, rail cannons, and assaulting MC´s with high strength, dreadnaught closecombat weapons.

Hive Splinter Mews: 1497 points.

Tyrant: 160 pts HQ

toxin-12 VC -40 BS-10 BPlasma-8 whip/sword- 15 :

Warrior: 288 pts Elite #1

Brood 1) : 96
BS-2 toxin-3 vc-20 whip-5 :44
devour -5 BS-2 whip-5 :26
devour -5 BS-2 whip-5 :26
Brood 2) : 96
BS-2 toxin-3 vc-20 whip-5 :44
devour -5 BS-2 whip-5 :26
devour -5 BS-2 whip-5 :26
Brood 3) : 96
BS-2 toxin-3 vc-20 whip-5 :44
devour -5 BS-2 whip-5 :26
devour -5 BS-2 whip-5 :26


shockafex: 218 pts Elite #2 ,#3

1- scyth talon x2 , bio plasma : 109
2- scyth talon x2 , bio plasma : 109


Gaunts: 402 pts Troops

1) flesh borer-2 x16 :96
2) flesh borer-2 x16 :96
3) flesh borer-2 x17 :102
4) flesh borer-2 x18 :108

zoanthropes: 165 pts Heavy #1

1- warpblast :55
2- warpblast :55
3- warpblast :55

Carnifex: 264 Heavy #2,#3

carni 1) toxin-6 crushclaw -25 bio-8 scyth-8 : 132
carni 2) toxin-6 crushclaw -25 bio-8 scyth-8 : 132

hahahahhahahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah you would get ownd lunahound im not trying to be disrepectful but his flamers and meltas would have a field day with you.

Yeah, no insult intended, but the list you posted is far inferior. Unless there was ahuge discrepencyin skill level, the marinelist would trounce thenid list.

The zoeys would get killed first, and then the termies would anhilate your assault fexes if they ever got close enough to charge, while the land raiders backed up and shot them to pieces. all your little buggers would be totally worthless as they would have nothing to attack and if they sat on an objective they would get tank shocked and flamered to death turn 5.

you have no ranged anti tank to speak of really. how would you propose to hurt his tanks? You made it sound like it would be easy to do.

Also, this is why i believe the redemeers are inferior to the LRC, the LRC can stay at a safe distance, move and fire all weapons. I think a better mix would be two LRC´s and a LR.

lol i just noticed you have 8 troop choices Lunahound.

and either 4 hq choices or 4 elite choices....

well, you either do not know the rules too well or are really young maybe? either way the list is way off, sorry to say it.

it could be 3 elites and one HQ but its diffenantly 8 troops.

Deathmachine wrote:hahahahhahahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahah you would get ownd lunahound im not trying to be disrepectful but his flamers and meltas would have a field day with you.

@deathmachine
well ya, like we all know game boards doesnt contain terrains right.
and its an open field where i have absolutely no where to hide and LOS?
granted the day a table have 0 terrain of course i'll get killed no questions asked.
but when is the last proper game you played with 0 terrains?

dont forget, flamers have such a short range, not like im gonna park my gaunts right infront of the LRR.
not to mention FoC

@recius yes you are right, it seems like i have 2 extra VC in there . if i take them out
i can merge the errored 3 brood into ONE brood of 3.
so yes its definately my mistake right there, im making the list as i look through my tyranid army
having 14 warrior ( 3vc ) in the storage box really threw me off.

Deathmachine wrote:lol i just noticed you have 8 troop choices Lunahound.

yes like i said im typing the list as i try to remember my old list while
digging up my nids.

and for the rest of the none jerks here is what i want to say.

i thought the nid list could be competitive against the marine.
actually i was thinking of the typical razorback with twin link lass cannon combo
but i dont have marine codex so im left with taking what i have on hand.
was i ever arrogant about it? no, i gave my opinion , if im wrong
then im wrong. where have i done wrong to warrant all these ridicules?

i came up with my old list that i used to play and gave it a shot with
proper usage of movements and LOS i still believe it has a chance.
would it work? maybe yes, but probably not according to you guys,
and i accept it.

what else did i miss?

LunaHound wrote:

Deathmachine wrote:lol i just noticed you have 8 troop choices Lunahound.

yes like i said im typing the list as i try to remember my old list while
digging up my nids.

and for the rest of the none jerks here is what i want to say.

i thought the nid list could be competitive against the marine.
actually i was thinking of the typical razorback with twin link lass cannon combo
but i dont have marine codex so im left with taking what i have on hand.
was i ever arrogant about it? no, i gave my opinion , if im wrong
then im wrong. where have i done wrong to warrant all these ridicules?

i came up with my old list that i used to play and gave it a shot with
proper usage of movements and LOS i still believe it has a chance.
would it work? maybe yes, but probably not according to you guys,
and i accept it.

what else did i miss?

We didn't mean to offend you... It's just that it would be very hard to kill LR's with the stuff you've mentioned.

His list is very good, and the more cover he has... the better, his tanks are close range monsters, whose weapons ignore cover...

It may seem harsh.. especially since you're new to the site... but the stuff we've said is not rude... sorry

Shrike78 wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

Deathmachine wrote:lol i just noticed you have 8 troop choices Lunahound.

yes like i said im typing the list as i try to remember my old list while
digging up my nids.

and for the rest of the none jerks here is what i want to say.

i thought the nid list could be competitive against the marine.
actually i was thinking of the typical razorback with twin link lass cannon combo
but i dont have marine codex so im left with taking what i have on hand.
was i ever arrogant about it? no, i gave my opinion , if im wrong
then im wrong. where have i done wrong to warrant all these ridicules?

i came up with my old list that i used to play and gave it a shot with
proper usage of movements and LOS i still believe it has a chance.
would it work? maybe yes, but probably not according to you guys,
and i accept it.

what else did i miss?

We didn't mean to offend you... It's just that it would be very hard to kill LR's with the stuff you've mentioned.

His list is very good, and the more cover he has... the better, his tanks are close range monsters, whose weapons ignore cover...

It may seem harsh.. especially since you're new to the site... but the stuff we've said is not rude... sorry

its ok i deserved it anyways. just so stressful for me lately to think straight. was scammed from account, loss of sleep, kept reading things wrong or
missed this and that.

so embarrassing that i want to delete my posts but i dont think i can lol.

*sighs some more