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Vahalla

List 1: 750 Points

Chaos Lord with Mark of Slaanesh and Lightning Claws - 125

9 Marines with IoS and Flamer. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 190
10 Marines with IoCG and 2 Plasmas - 190 (My Nightlord Mercs)

5 Raptors with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 170

Obliterator - 75

Total 750

List 2 - 1000 points

Add to the above list:
1 Rhino

10 Marines with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champ with Power Weapon - 220

Total 1000

List 3 - 1000 points

Slaaneshi Terminator Lord with Lightning Claws - 135

5 Terminators with IoS, Heavy Flamer, Chainfist and 4 combi Weapons - 205

10 Marines with IoS and 2 Flamers. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 210
10 Marines with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 220
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoCG and 2 Plasmas - 190

Total 995

List 4 - 1500 points

Slaaneshi Terminator Lord with Lightning Claws - 135

5 Terminators with IoS, Heavy Flamer, Chainfist and 4 combi Weapons - 205

10 Marines with IoS and 2 Flamers. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 210
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoS and 2 Flamers. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 210
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 220
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoCG and 2 Plasmas - 190

Defiler - 150
Obliterator - 75

Total - 1500

List 5 - 1750

Take away the Obliterator from the previous list and add:
Defiler - 150
Defiler - 150

total - 1725

What to spend the final 25 points on? What do you lot think of these lists? what to keep? what to drop?

Please tell me!






Jimi supports METAL

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Bat Country

Jimi Nemesis wrote:List 1: 750 Points

Chaos Lord with Mark of Slaanesh and Lightning Claws - 125

9 Marines with IoS and Flamer. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 190
10 Marines with IoCG and 2 Plasmas - 190 (My Nightlord Mercs)

5 Raptors with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 170

Obliterator - 75

Total 750


I'm a little worried this list is going to be run off of the table. They are fast and will be awesome in CC if they make it there. But so far they are foot slogging and trying to bolter everything to death on their way. Some Noise Marines units would do really well here. The raptors are far too small and won't accomplish much. The obliterator seems out of place, no lash for bunching, easy target himself. The Chaos Lord is also pretty crappy. The points would be better served as a Lash Sorcerer.

Jimi Nemesis wrote:List 2 - 1000 points

Add to the above list:
1 Rhino

10 Marines with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champ with Power Weapon - 220

Total 1000


Same as before, except now your anti-tank is getting to dangerously low levels.

Jimi Nemesis wrote:List 3 - 1000 points

Slaaneshi Terminator Lord with Lightning Claws - 135

5 Terminators with IoS, Heavy Flamer, Chainfist and 4 combi Weapons - 205

10 Marines with IoS and 2 Flamers. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 210
10 Marines with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 220
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoCG and 2 Plasmas - 190

Total 995


Same as above. What are the combi weapons?

Jimi Nemesis wrote:List 4 - 1500 points

Slaaneshi Terminator Lord with Lightning Claws - 135

5 Terminators with IoS, Heavy Flamer, Chainfist and 4 combi Weapons - 205

10 Marines with IoS and 2 Flamers. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 210
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoS and 2 Flamers. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 210
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoS and 2 Meltas. Aspiring Champion with Power Weapon - 220
Rhino - 35
10 Marines with IoCG and 2 Plasmas - 190

Defiler - 150
Obliterator - 75

Total - 1500


This is a little more survivable for the troops here. They all have rhinos, can explode out of them pretty well if they aren't blown up on the way. Lacks anti-tank once more. The Termie Lord with LCs isn't very good. for 10 points less you can have a Lash Sorc who is far more useful.

Jimi Nemesis wrote:List 5 - 1750

Take away the Obliterator from the previous list and add:
Defiler - 150
Defiler - 150

total - 1725

What to spend the final 25 points on? What do you lot think of these lists? what to keep? what to drop?

Please tell me!


This list is unsurvivable even in the most casual of settings.

I suggest you invest in some Lash Sorcs/DPs, more oblits, and Noise Marines.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/12/22 03:37:04


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Vahalla

I am trying to veer away from the more traditional Lash and noise slaaneshi lists.

the first 1000 point list has 4 meltas, 2 plasmas and an obliterator. I find that more than sufficient in my local group, as only one player takes a LR, but his lists are cheesier than a tournament eldar list...

The termie combi weapons are going to be plasmas most likely. The only one of these lists I can actually field at the moment is the 750, so these lists are speculative.

for the 1750, 3 defilers should, logically, sok up a horrendous ammount of firepower, and, Though it isn't writen, thay all have the 2 extra CCWs, so they should shred just about anything.


Jimi supports METAL

We're outnumbered ten to one here. Still' I love the odds! - Free Will Sacrifice - Amon Amarth

Ketara wrote:To survive on the net requires that you adapt the attributes of a Rhinocerous to a certain extent. A thick skin, a big horn to stab people you don't like, and poor eyesight when certain images are linked from places like 4chan.

 
   
Made in us
Wrack Sufferer





Bat Country

Jimi Nemesis wrote:I am trying to veer away from the more traditional Lash and noise slaaneshi lists.

the first 1000 point list has 4 meltas, 2 plasmas and an obliterator. I find that more than sufficient in my local group, as only one player takes a LR, but his lists are cheesier than a tournament eldar list...


Land Raiders are notoriously hard a single Oblit shooting once a turn is porbably not going to find the (the forum is editting out the word one would commonly expect to find here) in it's armor. You could get lucky though. The meltas probably won't make it to the raider. The LR can pop rhinos with ease.

Jimi Nemesis wrote:for the 1750, 3 defilers should, logically, sok up a horrendous ammount of firepower, and, Though it isn't writen, thay all have the 2 extra CCWs, so they should shred just about anything.


On paper Defilers are awesome! On the table they turn out terribly. They now either sit back and Battle Cannon until it gets shot off or they try to run up to use their DCCWs and get popped before they hit CC. For the same amount of points you can have two obliterators which are much more versatile and better anti-tank units, more survivable too.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2008/12/22 04:20:01


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