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Something random I'm considering:

HQ: Eldrad
HQ: 10 Warlocks /w 1 embolden, 2 enhance, 4 destructors on jetbikes
HQ: Avatar
T: 10 Dire Avengers /w Exarch /w bladestorm, defend, shimmershield
T: 10 Dire Avengers /w Exarch /w bladestorm, defend, shimmershield
T: 6 Pathfinders
HS: 5 Dark Reapers /w Exarch /w crack shot, tempest launcher
HS: Wraithlord /w 2 flamers, bright lance, wraithsword
HS: Wraithlord /w 2 flamers, bright lance, wraithsword

I realize that the wraithlords with wraithswords aren't exactly standard, but my main worry is in having a means to deal with the nob bikers, and if those wraithlords get into HTH combat, the wraithswords will be a godsend.

The other option I'm considering is to have a jetseer instead of eldrad.

I also really wanted to get Maugan Ra in here, but with the insane amount of points that a jetlock council costs, I couldn't fit him and a squad to accompany him (i.e. Harlequins, probably) into the list.

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the avatar without guardians seems out of place. Also you don't seem to have enough anti-tank in a 1850pt game, 2 BL will not cut it. What do you plan on doing if you face 2 monoliths?
   
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Clthomps wrote:the avatar without guardians seems out of place. Also you don't seem to have enough anti-tank in a 1850pt game, 2 BL will not cut it. What do you plan on doing if you face 2 monoliths?


I figure the 10 warlocks on jetbikes with witchblades tossing 30 S9 attacks against vehicles is good enough.

Not to mention that I'd probably ignore the bricks in favor of just killing necrons and going for combat res.

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By the way....

The Maugan Ra force I was considering was this:

Eldrad
7 Warlocks (1 enhance, 1 embolden, 2 destructors)
Maugan Ra
10 Harlequins (shadowseer, 2 fusion pistols, kisses for everyone)
The rest the same as above (dire avengers, pathfinders, reapers, wraithlords).

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The warlocks on jetbikes obviously need fortune and Eldrad isn't fast enough to keep it on them if they boost forward. I'd think a farseer on bike vs. the avatar would be necessary.

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d'oh. knew I was forgetting something.

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Springhurst, VIC, Australia

I dont want to be the one to bring you down but you can only have 2 HQ's not 3 as listed

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Squig_herder wrote:I dont want to be the one to bring you down but you can only have 2 HQ's not 3 as listed

There are only 2 HQ's since the Warlocks count as retinue.
However, fielding Warlocks on jetbikes and no Farseer on jetbike makes no sense, since the Warlocks need to be fortuned all the time.

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Well, drop Eldrad for a jetbike farseer. Should work.

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10 Warlocks /w 1 embolden, 2 enhance, 4 destructors on jetbikes

Two times embolden can be a life saver for the unit and it can also be used to reroll a failed psychic test (see the Eldar FAQ's).

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Springhurst, VIC, Australia

Totally forget [even after re-reading the whole codex again, lol]

the counsil is too big IMHO, 8 is more than enough

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However, I'm not sure if you can field Warlocks on jetbikes while the Farseer has no jetbike. Never seen this before. Anyway it make no sense.

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I was thinking of a similar list.

Jetseer
10 warlocks on bikes (2x embolden, 2x enhance)
Maugan Ra
4x (10 guardians with EML, spiritseer with embolden)
2x wraithlord with brightlance, wraithsword
wraithlord with brightlance, EML

Maugan Ra just joins a guardian squad, although he may separate when it's time for close combat, since the guardians would prefer not to get involved. Importantly, the warlocks/spiritseers will keep the wraithlords moving. In your list, once you swap Eldrad for a jetseer, you'll be taking wraithsight tests every turn.

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What about a 5man harlie squad with a seer and jester, kisses and mr.Ra. Fairly low point squad b4 the lord and keeps itself quite safe - if they do get into combat, lotsa things will die.

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Jetseer
10 warlocks on bikes (2x embolden, 2x enhance)
Maugan Ra
4x (10 guardians with EML, spiritseer with embolden)
2x wraithlord with brightlance, wraithsword
wraithlord with brightlance, EML

I'd drop Maugan Ra for an Autarch on jetbike with laserlance, mandiblaster, joining the Jetbike HQ squad.

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The problem with the wraithlords is the "wraithsight", and your farseer and warlocks are going to be zipping about the board, especially once CC and pile'in's start.

Also, transports in general are alot tougher to take down, and eldar infantry are very squishy. They really benefit from being able to zip around in the serpents. Obviously, Falcons and Prisms synergize better with the serpents then with the wraithlords. Plus, the wraithlord's larger bases mean that the warlocks will not likely be able to soak any wounds for them.

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Eldrad
7 Warlocks (1 enhance, 1 embolden, 2 destructors)
Maugan Ra
10 Harlequins (shadowseer, 2 fusion pistols, kisses for everyone)
The rest the same as above (dire avengers, pathfinders, reapers, wraithlords).

With a list like this I'd try to keep the enemy at arm's length.
For this, the list needs some very shooty units like guided Warwalkers.
I'd drop the Warlocks, the Harlies should suffice as counterstrike unit.

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