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For my nids I am dipping them with minwax polyshade stain and polyurethane in the antique walnut color.

The result is a little better then what I was hoping for on the Hive fleet Kraken nids.

But now I am working on my blood bowl human team. I painted them up using denab stone for the cloth, merchrite red on the armor, canthan brown on the leather straps (and ball because he is a thrower model), orange on his towel thing, and straight elf flesh for his skin, with a white number on his back plate and on his thigh pad, and a white stripe on his helmet.

I am waiting for him to dry right now (dipped him at 8:30 and it’s about an hour later). But the result looks somewhat lower quality then what I was looking for.

Is there a better shade of stain to use for dipping humans? I saw in another thread where someone used a stain / satin combo that was a bit more black.

I do plan on dull coating him once he is dry. Link to the GW mini.
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1060005&prodId=prod1560081&rootCatGameStyle=specialist-games

Your starting colours are quite dark.
If that is on a black undercoat the results might not be great.

My advice is to always keep some plastics handy for test miniatures.

In my opinion the dip is useful for quickly preparing large numbers of figures for an army. Historical game players (like me) usually have to paint up 100-300 figures for an army.

In the case of Blood Bowl, you only have a few figures in the team and they probably want brighter rather than dulled down colours. So I would not use dip at all.

However, the minwax stuff comes a several different shades and you could get one lighter and one darker and try them out.

When starting a large printing project it is a good idea to do a test piece to perfect the colour scheme and techniques.

Envy89 wrote:
Is there a better shade of stain to use for dipping humans? I saw in another thread where someone used a stain / satin combo that was a bit more black.

Minwax Polyshade Tudor Satin is much darker than the Walnut shade. I used this for doing my imperial guard. you can see results here

I am dipping them because they are my off team. My main one is wood elves.

Yes, it is on top of a black undercoat. I have never tried priming with white paint, what kind would you recomend I use for this?? I can see where that would make everyintng brighter. But I want to avoid making it look orange, we allready have a human team in the legue with orange armor. I also want to avoid having a team of smu.... I mean, blue armored humans.

After a night of drying, it seams to be meh. Ill give him another day before I dull coat him. I might go in and do some touch up work on flesh areas.

The main goal of this is so blood bowl dosent become like 40k.... 4 or 5 different teams / armies, and none of them painted.

Once i get my nids and humans diped. Ill at least have painted stuff to play with.

>>The main goal of this is so blood bowl dosent become like 40k.... 4 or 5 different teams / armies, and none of them painted.

I can't fault your motives!

GW make white primer if you want to buy theirs. Otherwise, you can prime with a white car primer. I use grey primer because I find white too bright.

Another alternative to white spray primer is acrylic gesso. It comes in white and can easily be stained to another colour with some paint. There is an article about acrylic gesso in the Article system. I have used gesso and it works well. It has about 24 hours drying time.

An alternative to dipping is to use an ink wash. A walnut colour ink wash goes on quickly by brush and gives the same effect of pooling in the folds and creating shadowing, though of course it does not give any varnishing protection.

Another alternative is to use the magic Payne's Grey wash. The idea is similar to ink washing. There is an article about this in the Article system.

where can you buy gesso though? only in art shops?

any place that sells arts and crafts usually carries it.

You could also order it online from http://www.craftsuperstore.co.uk

There are many online art shops now.

I buy my art supplies at art shops because I work about 5 minutes walk from several of them. A 473ml bottle of Liquitex gesso costs about £8-9. It's a lot for one bottle but it will cover an awful lot of models.

Art shops are good places to get brushes, palettes, paints and inks (not hobby type paints) and all kinds of useful stuff.

Acrylic art paint is much cheaper for the volume you buy than ready mixed paint from GW or Tamiya but you need to mix it with media to make it useable for models.

Thanks for the advice
Now to try and find an art shop in swindon, a town completely lacking in most forms of art and culture.
This will be fun.