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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 06:34:34
Subject: Loading dice
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Combat Jumping Rasyat
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What's the best way to go about adjusting probability in my favor? Before anyone jumps on me for being TFG, I've had a pile of GW dice siting in my bit box and I thought it would be interesting experimenting with fixing dice. I've taken the GW dice and drilled out the 6 side pips then inked the holes. They roll 6s above average and rarely roll 1s but they wont stand up to close inspection. I think I might have drilled too deep (about half way) since if I straight drop the dice on a 1 they'll stick on it. I've thought about drilling out the 6 side pips on the 5 and 4 side to skew them toward 4s and 5s to weigh the 1 side down more and reduce 2s and 3s. Next I'll try chipping the 6 edges down to form a convex and/or shaving the 1 side in. Any other suggestions?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 06:42:59
Subject: Loading dice
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Dakka Veteran
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I strictly use the 3" fluffy dice that hang from car rearview mirrors. I've weighted them by installing a 13lb lead sheet on the 1-pip side by drilling through the foam with a diamond bit. I carry a bag of 50 around in a Santa sack over my shoulder, but it gets weighty at 650lbs.
Unfortunately, I fail all of my morale tests.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 06:46:11
Subject: Loading dice
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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I flip them over to the one when I'm not using them, so the all luck runs down into the six.
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 06:52:53
Subject: Loading dice
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Stormin' Stompa
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Orkeosaurus wrote:I flip them over to the one when I'm not using them, so the all luck runs down into the six.
That's incredibly stupid.
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guilty
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 07:15:09
Subject: Re:Loading dice
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Drill the out the one with an appropriate bit.
Drop a ball bearing of appropriate diameter so that the bearing's edge is level to where the bottom of the original pip.
Sculpt the pip out with green-stuff.
Repaint all the pips to match.
Get ready to have your models broken if those dice ever wobble across the table.
use number printed dice and sign an anti-pip petition
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 09:23:00
Subject: Re:Loading dice
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I heard a rumor that the members of a gaming club where caught using loaded dice in the last Seattle GT. I guess people complained about their lucky dice rolls. The judges dropped their dice in a bucket of water and caught them that way. Has anyone heard this or is it just a myth?
~Logic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 10:30:37
Subject: Loading dice
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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Logic; Cant say if your story is true or not, but many ways of fixing dice can be detected by dropping them in water.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 10:45:10
Subject: Loading dice
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Lead-Footed Trukkboy Driver
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Blatant plug:
http://maddwarf.co.uk/Articles/dice.htm
Several tips for how to keep your dice on your side.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 12:43:39
Subject: Loading dice
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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avantgarde wrote:What's the best way to go about adjusting probability in my favor? Before anyone jumps on me for being TFG, I've had a pile of GW dice siting in my bit box and I thought it would be interesting experimenting with fixing dice.
I've taken the GW dice and drilled out the 6 side pips then inked the holes. They roll 6s above average and rarely roll 1s but they wont stand up to close inspection. I think I might have drilled too deep (about half way) since if I straight drop the dice on a 1 they'll stick on it. I've thought about drilling out the 6 side pips on the 5 and 4 side to skew them toward 4s and 5s to weigh the 1 side down more and reduce 2s and 3s.
Next I'll try chipping the 6 edges down to form a convex and/or shaving the 1 side in.
Any other suggestions?
Note to self...don't play this guy ever...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 12:57:43
Subject: Re:Loading dice
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Maddening Mutant Boss of Chaos
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Logic wrote:I heard a rumor that the members of a gaming club where caught using loaded dice in the last Seattle GT. I guess people complained about their lucky dice rolls. The judges dropped their dice in a bucket of water and caught them that way. Has anyone heard this or is it just a myth?
~Logic
I heard that too. Dont know if its a myth or not.
To the OP. Place a die on a paper plate, one side down. Put it in the microwave and turn it on for 30 seconds at a time. Do this a few times and the density of the die will be changed. It works, but there is no question something is wrong with the way it rolls.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 13:09:07
Subject: Loading dice
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Stubborn Temple Guard
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Buy cheating dice. I have several d6 that have another 6 instead of a 1. For those pesky morale checks, there is a set that has an additional 1 instead of a 6.
This is the "low effort" route.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 13:36:18
Subject: Loading dice
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Use the "Emperor's New Dice".
They appear as 6 blank sides to normal gamers, but to TFG players the pips are mystically displayed, and always in their favour....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 13:40:18
Subject: Loading dice
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Hubcap
Mars
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I've heard that the Heavens Lore helps with dice rolls.
Maybe you should just all play Lizardmen?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 15:11:55
Subject: Loading dice
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGYKgo0sskw
Jiggabo Lones is your man for this!!!!
I've got half a dozen dice with 6 pips on every side!
I have never fooled anyone with them and nor would I want to!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 15:18:03
Subject: Loading dice
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Major
far away from Battle Creek, Michigan
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Alex Kolodotschko wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGYKgo0sskw
Jiggabo Lones is your man for this!!!!
I've got half a dozen dice with 6 pips on every side!
I have never fooled anyone with them and nor would I want to!
I actually saw a guy rolling a scatter die using this technique.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 15:25:45
Subject: Loading dice
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I've never tried this, but I have been told that it works.
Heat up a pot of water to just about boiling. Take a pair of tongs and hold the side that you want the die to roll up and place the die in the water for about 30 seconds. Then immediately put it in the freezer with the side that you want to roll facing up. Wait over-night. Voala! Loaded dice!
Let me know how well this works!
Any particular reason that you want to load dice?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 15:27:03
Subject: Loading dice
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Dakka Veteran
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If you have to cheat at a game it is time for you to stop breathing. I mean stop playing games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/15 15:31:35
Subject: Loading dice
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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This isn't an appropriate topic for a board which promotes honest sportsmanship.
I'm locking the thread.
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