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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 13:08:03
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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From reading the ork codex, it sounds like Gork and Mork are stronger than most other warp Beings. Using terms like " Can never be defeated" and such. How do they stack up o the Chaos gods?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 13:17:00
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Well tzeench and slaanesh on gork, and khorne and nurgle on mork, i think it would be close, but indiviually the chaos gods would get beaten, but not killed.
Just a question: Tzeench of emporer, who is more powerful with there magic tricks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 13:24:23
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Dakka Veteran
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The Eldar Gods got raped by slaanesh :(
but Khaine the war god is pretty much equal to a chaos one
Many people say that the Emperor is the 5th Chaos God,
The One of Order..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 13:27:35
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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The emporer isnt a choas god, created by thousands of humans, and how can there combined powers come to any warp beings.
I dont care, if those humans could do magic tricks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 14:02:48
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I beleive there is some very early fluff that Ork/Mork are substantially stronger than the chaos gods (hazy memory of the pair putting the smackdown on one chaos god at a point).
Of course, when you envision the image of a galaxy wide Robin Williams in red and silver jumpsuit you just have to say-yea that guys gonna get some...
(Gork to a defeated Skarbrand)
"Just tell your boss I'm comin' NANU NANU!!!"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 14:39:57
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Water-Caste Negotiator
Ppl's republic/New Zealand!
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Do they look like orks?
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I play:
People's liberation cadre
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 15:05:51
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Stompa's are made in the image of gork and mork.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 18:26:20
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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well its kind of my opinion that gods get their powers mostly from how many followers and whatnot they have. seeing as Gork and Mork are worshiped by a countless number of Orks they are WAY stronger then the other gods. BUt you have to remember they are like the Orks so Im sure Gork and Mork dont really care about completely killing off the other gods because then it would just be Gork and Mork. and yea Stompas are built in the image of the two, so they look like orks.... if orks were to become godly of course
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 21:01:27
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
Lawrence, KS (United States)
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Hahah, where did all the love for Chaos go?
Though I'm pretty sure that Slaanesh would be all but ineffective against Gork and Mork (since Orks don't desire anything but violence), I'm sure that Khorne could easily hold his own against at least one of them. Nurgle could have one of them hurling up their own entrails, while I'm sure if Tzeentch could muster up some willpower, he could turn Gork or Mork into a chicken (or something equally as ineffective in a fight).
The Chaos Gods already tore the entire Eldar Race a new one (Including their own deities...and actually, it only took one of them to do it), so why should Gork or Mork be any different?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 22:26:11
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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dont underestimate the chickens, Chrysaor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 22:40:36
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Chrysaor686 wrote:Hahah, where did all the love for Chaos go?
Though I'm pretty sure that Slaanesh would be all but ineffective against Gork and Mork (since Orks don't desire anything but violence), I'm sure that Khorne could easily hold his own against at least one of them. Nurgle could have one of them hurling up their own entrails, while I'm sure if Tzeentch could muster up some willpower, he could turn Gork or Mork into a chicken (or something equally as ineffective in a fight).
The Chaos Gods already tore the entire Eldar Race a new one (Including their own deities...and actually, it only took one of them to do it), so why should Gork or Mork be any different?
Easy; Slaanesh was created by the eldar, and that's why the eldar could never defeat it. Slaanesh was more of an eldar god than the actual gods they worshipped.
Orks don't have anything to do with the chaos gods. All of their being is put into Gork and Mork.
Then factor in the orks outnumbering humans 50 to 1, and eldar 1,000,000,000 to 1, and you can see why it's the ork's gods who rule.
The Ork Codex wrote:Gork and Mork are divine powerhouses, deities so strong they are never truly defeated. They simply shrug off the attacks of other gods with a raucous laugh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/16 23:16:56
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Dakka Veteran
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Well...
I like Eldar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/17 00:54:48
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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"...Stompas are built in the image of the two, so they look like orks.... if orks were to become godly of course."
If Orks lived long enough wouldn't they just keep getting bigger and finally be as big as Gork and Mork? But then Gork and Mork would be even bigger, oh well. Maybe someone could make a Squigoth model with a big Ork instead of a dinosaur.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/17 04:48:40
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Slippery Scout Biker
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As far as I can tell, Gork and Mork are many times more powerful than any of the other gods.
The Chaos Gods were created from the collective emotions of billions of Humans/Eldar.
Since they exist in the Warp, I'm guessing Gork and Mork were made in a similar manner.
There are trillions of orks in the galaxy, and all of them have a single-minded obsession with Gork and Mork.
With this in mind, it's easy to see how/why they would be even more powerful than any of the Chaos Gods.
Just my thoughts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/17 14:07:46
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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I dont think any warp being such as chaos gods could be killed. Not even by gork and mork. Chaos gods are strong but not as strong as gork and mork, but can a warp being that powerful be truly killed.
The emporer could be killed, he is nothing to any powerful warp being, and thats not a because im a chaos player. The emporer coud not kill any powerful warp beings, he could barely take down his crazy son, because the chaos gods were crafty enough to turn him against the emporer. I think the chaos gods can only use so much power in the material realm, if the emporer went to the warp, i beleive he wouldnt stand a chance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/17 15:39:25
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Dakka Veteran
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the eldar gods where i think webwayish fantastical deities.. similar to the chaos gods, yet they died, so i dont see why they wouldnt do the same, but what about the necron gods... are they strong?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/17 16:32:20
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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ctan are the necron gods.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/17 19:34:39
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
Olympia, Waaaghshinton
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C'tan aren't warp-beings; they are energy entities of a different nature.
But to answer the other questions, warp beings can be killed, in the sense they cease to exist as they are. In the horus' heresy, the reasons the chaos gods fled Horus right before the emperor launched his Super Hadoken was that they would have been "utterly destroyed" by the attack. You could also disperse a god by killing every living creature that knows of their existence or acts in a manner that is covered by the particular god's portfolio. So you'd pretty much have to wipe out all live in the galaxy.
Theoretically, Gork and Mork probably could easily kill the chaos gods; in the older fluff books from either rouge trader or 2nd, the fluff had the emperor's warp presence quaking in fear as they woke up. The thing is, they don't want to kill the others. All Gork and Mork want is to a nice fight or to play pranks. In one piece of fluff they have a lot of fun taking turns tripping nurgle!  That, combined with the fact that Orks are a relatively stable species since they have all they could ever wish for (except more Dakka) contributes to two extremely powerful gods that are content.
That is also why you don't see that many daemons shaped after Orky desires; 1. Since orks don't suffer from the angst that fuels the other gods abilities, and 2. The normal Ork is already the perfect follower of Gork and Mork.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/17 19:38:31
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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I didnt say ctan were warp beings but they are gods, i dont think the emporer would obliterator the chaos gods with his attack, GW say that to make him seem more powerful, if the chaos gods were killed, then they would be created again out of the negitive emotions of the warp, take them about a million years to get back to full power, but they would be back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 03:36:30
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Huge Hierodule
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The only reason Orks care about the Chaos gods is because Khornites are fun to "Play" with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 07:03:48
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
Lawrence, KS (United States)
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I think y'all are just a bunch of Greenskin lovers.
Really, though. If we're basing the power of a god on how many worshippers they have, do we actually know how many Necrons there are? I mean, they have to be at least fairly numerous, since they have the widest galactic presence (and were the first race to take to the stars). And then you have to factor in the fact that one of the C'tan is The Machine God, worshipped by countless unknowing humans.
Theoretically, I think that the C'tan have a chance of standing against Gork and Mork, depending on how much energy they have to feed off of.
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Pain is an illusion of the senses, Despair an illusion of the mind.
The Tainted - Pending
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 08:06:12
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
Olympia, Waaaghshinton
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Chrysaor686 wrote:I think y'all are just a bunch of Greenskin lovers.
Really, though. If we're basing the power of a god on how many worshippers they have, do we actually know how many Necrons there are? I mean, they have to be at least fairly numerous, since they have the widest galactic presence (and were the first race to take to the stars). And then you have to factor in the fact that one of the C'tan is The Machine God, worshipped by countless unknowing humans.
Theoretically, I think that the C'tan have a chance of standing against Gork and Mork, depending on how much energy they have to feed off of.
The thing is that the C'tan aren't warp entities. They don't become more powerful through worship, they become more powerful by grabbing your body and consuming your soul.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 11:47:25
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
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The c'tan could never kill Gork and Mork becouse C'tan and necrons avoid warp presence they can't stand it, and becouse Gork and Mork live in the warp.
So C'tan can never reach Gork,Mork,Khorne,Nurgle,Tzeench or slaanesh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 12:31:51
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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I would've thought Gork and Mork would be too busy fighting each other!, A fight neither could win as one is Fighty but Cunnin' the other Cunnin' but Fighty, so they are both Fighty and Cunnin'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 12:42:22
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Squishy Squig
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The c'tan and the necrons arent exactly afraid of the warp, nor are they seperated from the gods that dwell there because in some old necron fluff it mentions that the necrons and c'tan once attempted to seperate the warp from the material realm but were stopped halfway through by the old ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 13:09:27
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Killer Klaivex
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Of course they're the strongest gods, because, well, they'ze Orks, and Orks is da best. Durrr.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 13:23:09
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Didn't the C'Tan cleanse the galaxy once and go into stasis to await new life growing up to feed on?
And they use Suns as "energy" source.
Fully awakened C'tan could try to harvest the galaxy. The chaos beeings need living creatures to feed on and a cleansed galaxy
would deny that. Plus orks don't add to chaos,they feed gork&mork.
So it could be a struggle between Ctan and warpbeasts with endless  from gork&mork.
Eldar/necron/chaos wipe each other out and gork&mork are to busy with watching them.
 And the galaxy belongs to the Emperor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 13:41:46
Subject: Re:Who is the strongest?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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yea im sorry again i know Im bias to Da Orkses but still Gork and Mork have it hands down. Orks outnumber everything else combined by at least 2 to1. What codex was it that said when the Imperium sent out probes into the deepest parts of the universe all they found were Orks. Im thinking there are so many Orks youd never be able to get a number on them. AND they ALL worship Gork and Mork, there are no non believers.
Also Im wondering if Gork and Mork are the same being in some respects. Maybe along time ago they were just one massive beast of Ork and then one day became to much for even a god to handle, then split into two massively powerful gods. food for thought i guess
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 18:55:12
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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exept this time chaos out numbers them 2-1
yer
bet you didnt see that one comming
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/01/18 19:28:02
Subject: Who is the strongest?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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I think chaos gods could kill ctan, they can only have so much influence in the material realm, so they cant but they could.
Negetive feelings create demons in the warp and power up the gods, so does that count as ork negitive feelings?
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