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What kind of a 1000pt army list for the Space Marines. (ULTRA MARINES) Against a 1000pt Tau army?? Having trouble. I have pretty much everything I can possibly have for a Space Marine army. And I mean everything. And help would be awsome. Thanks!!

What is the Tau running that gives you trouble?

There is no help.....Tau are just insane in 5th edition.....


Seriously though I hate Tau and would love to know what he is running so we can give you advice.

Outflank Scouts, Use Bikes, drop assault termies..
or if you have a LAnd Raider ..
But I find (sirprisingly) that scouts give them the most trouble, Just Infiltrate and Sit on the Objectives, or try to outsmart him and get an early charge
or just outflank

Get in up close and personal since they have a crappy WS

use rhinos, razorback an' drop pods

He s using 2 battle suits 3 full fire warrior squads 2 hammer heads one with a Ion cannon and one with a rail gun. any ideas?? I just got a bunch of bikes and attack bikes. 1 squad of 3 bikes and a attack bike and a full squad of attack bikes. What else ???

The thing about Tau is that they can really customize against MEQs. I made a list that could take on SMs but was wiped by orks in 3 turns. I think you need to limit the amount of shots they put on you, so drop pods seems like the best answer. Landraiders are also good if you have 2 or 3 of them.

Pretty Much go for exeptional armour,
drop pods or your best bet: scouts!!

3 'Podding Ironclads shoud mess up his plans in short order, with heavy flamers (2+ to kill FW )

So should i not use a bunch of tactical marines? Should i just put a bunch of armor on the board? Theres just not alot you can do with 1000pts.

My roommate ran drop pod marines, and I found them very hard to deal with. Drop a couple of dreadnoughts in drop pods with multimeltas right next to his hammerheads. Not only will you be within 12 inches for 2D6 armor penetration, but he won't get a disruption pod cover save. Also, if you run bikes, turbo boost them first turn to get the cover save, and then assault into his FW's on your next turn.

The Tau's main weakness is their BS of 3, so make sure you exploit that. He'll have to concentrate his firepower on one unit at a time to completely destroy it, so divide his attention as best you can. Drop pods do that really well.

If I were you, I would take 4 drop pods, 2 with dreadnoughts with Multimeltas and 2 with tac squads. Drop your the Dreads first turn right next to his hammerheads. Once those are out of the picture, work from two sides if possible, and push the Tau into the middle. Any time you can divide their fire is time well spent.

synchronicity wrote:My roommate ran drop pod marines, and I found them very hard to deal with. Drop a couple of dreadnoughts in drop pods with multimeltas right next to his hammerheads. Not only will you be within 12 inches for 2D6 armor penetration, but he won't get a disruption pod cover save. Also, if you run bikes, turbo boost them first turn to get the cover save, and then assault into his FW's on your next turn.

The Tau's main weakness is their BS of 3, so make sure you exploit that. He'll have to concentrate his firepower on one unit at a time to completely destroy it, so divide his attention as best you can. Drop pods do that really well.

If I were you, I would take 4 drop pods, 2 with dreadnoughts with Multimeltas and 2 with tac squads. Drop your the Dreads first turn right next to his hammerheads. Once those are out of the picture, work from two sides if possible, and push the Tau into the middle. Any time you can divide their fire is time well spent.

Thank you for the info this sounds like a very good idea i forgot about doing a drop assault thanks alot.

how about some vanguard veterans... yer i bet you didn't thing of that! deep strike. assault battle suits you win and drop some melta dreds with heavy flamers

jamunition wrote:how about some vanguard veterans... yer i bet you didn't thing of that! deep strike. assault battle suits you win and drop some melta dreds with heavy flamers

I did think of this the only problem is in a 1000pt game thats a high point unit =(. I love the vanguards I ve got 10 of them they kill stuff very well

Either concentrate on Mech, Pods or both. Kill the HH that's giving you problems and the rest should be easier to handle.

Out of my head:

1xCaptain (or Librarian) @ 100pts
2x10 Tacs (Missile Launcher, Meltagun; Combi-Flamer) on Razorbacks @ 450pts
3xDreadnoughts (Multi Melta; Heavy Flamer) on Pods @ 450pts

Combat squad the Missile Launchers, put the rest on the Razorbacks and move forward, drop the 2 first Dreads on his face and take out the Railgun Hammerhead first.

Alternatively

1xCaptain (or Librarian) w/something @ 110pts
2x10 Tacs (Multi Melta, Flamer; Power Weapon) on Drop Pods @ 440pts
3xDreadnoughts (Multi Melta; Heavy Flamer) on Drop Pods @ 450pts

You definitely have an advantage over Tau in your ability to take crazy heavy weapons for relatively cheap on like every unit, so put heavy bolters and lascannons in all your tactical squads, dreadnoughts, and tanks, and hang back in cover to blast him from afar. The hammerheads are really the only things of his that can hang back effectively in the face of that.

Well we are playin Tuesday so Ill let you guys know how it went k. Thanks for the help tho.

I agree with everyone who said drop pods. Take a melta gun, hop out next to his beefiest tank, and fire away. Once you hit CC with your boys in blue he's done for. The trick, of course, is getting there.

He's expensive point wise, but I'd go with kantor

Drop podding sterguard maddnes with combi meltas and 30" shots that ignore tau armour= WIN

Also, they are scoring units

then take scouts for cheap troop choices. and drop podding Ironclads to come in on the first turn.

Ok we are campaining now the first game was a 600pt objective game I killed him. Next was a 800pt game I lost cause I was not by my objective on are last turn if it were a point game I would of won that one to. So my mistake. So the next will be another 800pt game then a 1000 then a apoc 2000 pt per side i cant wait thanks for the help =)

Your best bet is to cry yourself to sleep. Nothing beats Tau at 1000 pts or less

rmeju wrote:Your best bet is to cry yourself to sleep. Nothing beats Tau at 1000 pts or less

LMAO

rmeju wrote:Your best bet is to cry yourself to sleep. Nothing beats Tau at 1000 pts or less

ROFL