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Bloodthirster/Unholy Might + Blessing of the Gods
Skulltaker/Juggernaught mount

5x Blood Crusher (Skulltaker joins this unit in reserve)
6x Blood Crusher

8x Bloodletter/Icon
8x Bloodletter/Icon
8x Bloodletter
8x Bloodletter

Soul Grinder/phlegm
Soul Grinder/phlegm

This list can beat down nob bikers... in particular the greater daemon, Skulltaker and the Soul Grinders are all able to insta kill nobs and have the added advantage of hitting first to thin out the nobs prior to the power fists going off. This list is also balanced against all comers.

The idea for the list was inspired by the fantasy novel Blood for the Blood God by C.L. Werner from the Black Library. I am a big fan of the Skulltaker and thee model of the Khornate Chaos Lord mounted on a juggernaught. I am really looking forward to playing this list.

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I think this would work well. Since the bloodletters are fragile, have you considered giving the Icon to the bloodcrushers instead?

The list looks solid.

I can see how giving the Icon to the Letters is better because they are slightly less scary then Crushers so who ever your facing is more likely to send all the heavy fire at them instead of the Letters. At least in my experience.

How do you plan on bringing this in?

Like the list, looking forward to the results.

So far I have everything I need to build the bloodletters and I already have a bloodthirster. Hopefully within a month I can start playtesting.

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Hmm, I wouldn't say this list was an auto-beat down on a nob bikers list but it would be a good game, which is better than most other armies.

You are going to struggle against anything mech. Battlewagon Spam, Land Raider rush, and mech sisters to name a few. All mech eldar and tau will probably hurt you too. You will probably be alright against marine mech because marines jumping out of rhino's just aren't all that impressive anymore.

It is a nice fluffy list. It's just going to be a slow moving army once they drop in.

To continue our post RTT beer-conversation,

Extrenm(54) is correct, better to put the icons with the crushers, the letters are too vulnerable. They will get shot at while trying to hold objectives anyway, no need to give you opponent more reason to target em'.

By my calculations though, the following list:

BT w/ might, blessing - 275
Skulltaker w/ jugg - 175

5 man crushers w/ icon - 225
6 man crushers w/ icon - 265

4 squads of 8x letters - 512

Grinder w/ phlegm- 160
Grinder w/ phlegm- 160

Comes to a grand total of 1772.

Since we have some points to play with, I would add instruments and fury to the crushers to differentiate the wounds. This is a tournament list after all. For 1750 just drop a crusher and space out the upgrades.

In the case of 1850 you can simply make both crushers 6-daemons strong and implement the upgrades I just listed.

Alternatively, for some extra khorney-goodness, you could keep both BC units at 5, drop fury and add in another khorne herald on a jugg at the 1850 level. While this is a matter of preference and play style, I would use whichever works best for you. You may want to save the points and just use the extra 2 crushers with fury instead. Or you may like having another guy hitting at I6. Hitting on 3's against IC's is also nice. Another plus is gaining the tactical utility of being able to split him off to engage another unit. Which I know your quite fond of doing with your BA.

Other than that, the list is pretty straight forward.

Hope that helps.

To help against armor, perhaps consider giving the Grinders Tongue instead of Phlegm. You don't really need more Troop-killing ability, but could use some anti-tank.

All daemonic lists I have seen struggle with armor. The grinders and GD can take bust in assault.

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What would you do against a fast mechanised army? Granted phelgm will murder jetbikes (why dont they make termie bikes :( ) but otherwise a army based around speed will be able to -i think- outmanouver you/keep out of charge range bar you encircling somthing?

Deep strike onto the objectives.

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Here is my initial thought on splitting the list into two groups:

A-
Bloodthirster
Soul Grinder
Bloodcrushers
2x Bloodletters

B-
Skulltaker
Soul Grinder
Bloodcrushers
2x Bloodletters

I am going to kit the BC with wargear to make them complex units.

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2 units of 4 crushers, or 1 unit of 8 would be better I think... I would use the rest of the points for your blood letters

A couple of friends who have had a lot of success with BC told me two big groups perform better overall.

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What kinda gubbins have you got to make them complex units? & how much pt wise does that add?

They will have instrument of Chaos, icon and there is one other... WhiteDevil listed them above. The one that provides rending really helps against armor:

S6 on charge + 6 + d3 means they can actually penetrate a landraider.

: )

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Green Blow Fly wrote:They will have instrument of Chaos, icon and there is one other... WhiteDevil listed them above. The one that provides rending really helps against armor:

S6 on charge + 6 + d3 means they can actually penetrate a landraider.

: )

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Only one model in the squad is capable of even glancing a land raider, and the other model doesn't even reliably do that. They're better off doing other things.

Two squads is equal to two models. I don't intend to kill landraiders on a low percentage chance... The greater daemon can shred landraiders with ease. I was simply pointing out that the BC can do it if you have hot dice.

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So what do people think of my split for the two groups?

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