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Sneaky Kommando





El Paso, Texas

Sorry if this has been covered before. In the SM Codex, the Legion of the Damned's special rule Unyielding Specters says "Their saving throw is invulnerable". Does this mean Psy-weapons, such as Psybolts and Psycannons and other weapons which ignore Invulnerable saves allow the LotD no saves at all?

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Cosmic Joe





Bulgaria

It seems RAW-ish enough for them to get no save.


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gay isn't it. In friendly games, I would not be a prick and pull that. But in a tournament type environment, this would be the case sadly.

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Los Angeles, CA

padixon wrote:gay isn't it. In friendly games, I would not be a prick and pull that. But in a tournament type environment, this would be the case sadly.


I don't think there's anything prick about it.

LotD are ethereal creatures and they have an invulnerable save because of it.

Psycannons or the few other things that ignore invulnerable saves should mess them up and they do!


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yakface wrote:
padixon wrote:gay isn't it. In friendly games, I would not be a prick and pull that. But in a tournament type environment, this would be the case sadly.


I don't think there's anything prick about it.

LotD are ethereal creatures and they have an invulnerable save because of it.

Psycannons or the few other things that ignore invulnerable saves should mess them up and they do!



Yay, and psycannons used to be read to not give cover saves either, until it was FAQ to be more clear. My point is that they are obviously wearing the armor they are supposed to have. Just the rules (as usual) are not as all encompassing as many people would like them to be.

EDIT: However, normally GW is pretty good at listing wargear appropriately even in case of armor. And no such listing is made for power armor, so this may very well be intentional, again pretty gay considering the price of the unit.

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Mostly tanks 2000+ pts
Ultras 3rd Co and 1st Co. 7000+ pts
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Skullrippa'z Freebootaz 6000+ pts
Plague Marine Force 2000+ pts
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Raleigh, NC

Considering their price? What other infantry unit can move and shoot a lascannon? And they get an invul save? I think their price is justified.
   
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Can we not use "gay" as a negative term?

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Lancaster PA

Yea, I gotta say, if you don't think a 3+ Inv. save is scary, you are not playing Sisters enough.
Besides, how often are you really bumping up against psycannons?


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Centurian99 wrote:Can we not use "gay" as a negative term?


Apparently not.

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Fireknife Shas'el






Richmond, VA

Centurian99 wrote:Can we not use "gay" as a negative term?


Is 'Gav Thorpe' still acceptable?

Seriously, yeah, there's no need to use 'gay' as pejorative.

Also the LotD have an Invulnerable save. Psycannon rules state they ignore Invulnerable saves. What is the issue here? This is about as clear as GW rule writing gets.

 
   
 
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