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I'm planning on having it cost 950-1000 pts. If something seems overpowered, just say so.


Name: Mekwagon (tentative name)

Super-heavy Tank, fast

Structure points: 4

BS 3
F 14
S 14 (Extra armor plates instead of sponsons)
R 12

Weapons and equipment:

-May take a single turret-mounted gun, either a teefgun or zzap kannon.

-4 boarding planks, 2 on each side.

-1 hull-mounted grabbin' klaw

May take any other wargear entries from vehicle upgrades section of Codex: Orks, priced for a battlewagon.

Transport capacity: 40
Warbuggies, wartrakks and scorchas may be transported, they count as 10 models each.
Access points - 2, one on each side

4 fire points in hull

Weapon stats:

Teefgun:
Range 60"
STR 8
AP 2
Heavy 20, Primary Weapon

Zzap Kannon
Range 60"
STR 3D6 (Over 10 is treated as a destroyer hit)
AP 1
Heavy 1, Primary Weapon

Masaioh wrote:I'm planning on having it cost 950-1000 pts. If something seems overpowered, just say so.


Name: Mekwagon (tentative name)

Super-heavy Tank, fast

Structure points: 4

BS 3
F 14
S 14 (Extra armor plates instead of sponsons)
R 12

1) BS 3 ? not crewed by orks?
2) fast ? I don't think fast exists for super-eavies......
3) s 14 ? no sponsons? a mek missing the chance to put more guns on the vehicle?

Masaioh wrote:
Weapons and equipment:

-May take a single turret-mounted gun, either a teefgun or zzap kannon.

-4 boarding planks, 2 on each side.

-1 hull-mounted grabbin' klaw

May take any other wargear entries from vehicle upgrades section of Codex: Orks, priced for a battlewagon.

Transport capacity: 40
Warbuggies, wartrakks and scorchas may be transported, they count as 10 models each.
Access points - 2, one on each side

4 fire points in hull

Weapon stats:

Teefgun:
Range 60"
STR 8
AP 2
Heavy 20, Primary Weapon

Zzap Kannon
Range 60"
STR 3D6 (Over 10 is treated as a destroyer hit)
AP 1
Heavy 1, Primary Weapon

4) weapons : so either a super VMb or a S 3-18 gun?

Maybe use existant weapons (apoc / apoc:reload) or get weapons from epic.

Fast exists for the Skullhamma, an Orc super-heavy in the apoc rulebook

No sponsons because I don't know what to convert them to for orks, and that + main turret would probably be too much, none of my friends own super-heavies or gargantuan creatures yet.

BS 3 because I figured it'd be a big mek's magnum opus, and would have some sort of mechanism that enhances it's accuracy.

The Teefgun is horribly powerful at AP 2. Knocking a point off that seems fair.

What's wrong with the Skullhamma for rules?

Okay, I'll knock a point off of the teefgun's AP, but i'm probably gonna build it with the zzap kannon anyway.

I'm not building a skullhamma because it's too much effort to convert, and I like being creative with 40k stuff.

You know, like any other Ork vehicle, there is a *lot* of flexibility in terms of what any given vehicle looks, regardless of what it counts as.

Look at all of the Ork Stompas that have been created prior to date. They're all different-looking, but they follow the same rules.

So a Skullhamma is the same way.

You just have the same number of guns on a chassis of approximately the same size / shape as a Baneblade, and you're pretty much free to do whatever you like in terms of creative interpretation of what your Skullhamma looks like.

The advantage of this approach is that rules-wise, everybody knows what it is, so nobody complains about rules or balance.

Thing is, like I said in my topic post, I want something to take up 950-1000 points for a standard 3k minimum apoc army, and any more minis wouldn't be able to fit in my cases to take the army anywhere. The 2k pts army I have planned might need 2 large carrying cases to take it somewhere.

To be honest, at that points level, you're probably better off making a Gargant over a super-skullhamma..

If you're making a custom datasheet, you really don't need our input - you need your opponents!

What's a gargant? Does it fit in the games workshop miniature cases? This is something that I want to be able to take somewhere without it breaking.

A Gargant is an embiggened Stompa.

And a Great Gargant is an embiggened Gargant.

I have no idea how big a GW miniatures case is, but I wouldn't necessarily let that dictate what you can create - there's nothing wrong with making a custom case for something like a Gargant, or even just transporting it in a cardboard box surrounded by bags full of styrofoam peanuts / bubble wrap.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1030021&rootCatGameStyle=gaming-accessories

The larger figure case is just big enough to carry 2 baneblades side by side. I don't even think it's thick enough for a stompa. And there's a limit as to what I can carry into my local GW for tourneys because it's in the world's largest shopping mall, lol. I own one case with foam that hasn't been cut yet, and that's for my boyz + trukks/wagons.

Plus, a gargant might not fit on the boards at this GW, they only have a board that's approx 10x4 ft, and that's by connecting two boards together.

I might just get a stompa, but that means more money to spend on stuff to get minimum apoc size (tight budget), and I'd like both of my armies to add up to 10k. I have current army list posted on the other board if you guys want to take a look.

Ahh... Got it!

If you're doing store gaming for megabattles, I'd suggest even more strongly that you stay with the "official" Stompa / Skullhamma rules. You're probably playing against strangers, so it's a lot easier if they know they're up against a standard Stompa / Skullhamma.

If you're going to convert, a couple of Stompas are 1200-300 (600-650 each), so that's a pretty big chunk of points in a couple of big, cool models that everybody would know the stats for. You could do one Gorky and the other Morky.

Or, as you know they fit in the case, a couple of Skullhammas would also be decent for 400+ pts each.

Trying to push a Baneblade chassis to 900-1000 pts doesn't seem right - you'd need probably double the chassis to make it work.

But really, the Stompas are more iconically Orky. And they have better weapons loadout. And you get more points for your money.

Oh no, I've already made one 1000 pt baneblade for chaos, but that's mainly because of the unique mechanics that couldn't be replicated with existing rules. I replaced the demolisher cannon with a long-barreled hellhammer cannon and made the main cannon a sort of kamehame-ha cannon that shoots a destroyer hellstorm weapon that releases into a 10" blast vortex when it hits a tank or MC. My friends let me use it once per battle, and it was me against 4 of them. Still, it gave me an excuse to convert a techno-organic khorne baneblade made out of flesh and molten brass

And I was thinking of stompa + 20 boys + 2 wartrakks + kult of speed asset for apoc expansion of my tourney army. I haven't added up points yet.

are we gonna get any pics of this Chaos mostrocity?

Hahaha, depends if I can hook up my blackberry to my PC.