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How does this work? It states in the rules that nullzone makes it so that enemy models must reroll invulnerable saves .


I shoot at a unit of bloodletter by Fateweaver; I have nullzone he has Fatweaver.

fateweaver with in range nullzone up.

Scenario 1

1 . I put 8 wounds on a Bloodletter unit.

They roll 8 dice; 4 Saves, 4 Fails;

2. Oppenent picks up 4 Failed Dice rerolls them because of Fateweaver
Oppenent picks up 4 successful dice because of Fateweaver.

3. He has rerolled each dice once which is the number of times the book allows as the rules state you may not reroll the dice more than once. Is this the correct way of doing it.


Or Scenario 2

1. He picks up failed dice rerolls them ; gets 7 saves now.

2. He picks up all successful saves rerolls due to Nullzone

3. This doesnt seem to make sense as it violates the no more than one reroll rule
Now there has not be multiple rerolls of the dice as that is not allowed by the rules. But Each dice has only been rerolled once. So is this how this works.


Okay; Nullzone states reroll invulnerable saves , under Cover it states it is a invulnerable unmodifieable save.



So does nullzone work with cover saves since it states that cover is a type of invulnerable save.

First, a "Cover" save is NOT an "Invulnerable" save.

Second, you can never reroll a die more than once.

Fateweaver/Fortune allow you to reroll failed saves. Null zone forces you to reroll successful saves. As such, the correct way to do it is to roll the saves, and then immediately reroll all of them, regardless of the results. (You may be able to agree with your opponent to allow the two effects to cancel, so that the dice only have to be rolled once, just to save time.)

It's the same with the farseer power Fortune.
The first roll becomes redundant so you can just skip it.

Which is it though?


You have make 4 saves , 4 are failed.


You reroll the 4 saves , you reroll the 4 Failed and that is what is left. CorrecT?

The correct way is to pick up all the dice (passed and failed) and re-roll them at once.

Note that a cover save is NOT an invulnerable save.

but still rerollable by fateweaver

Yeah I would have to read the specific entry, but it does say that Cover Saves are a type of inbulnerable save and uses the wording.


If someone could preint the entry that would be great.

A cover save is not an invulnerable save. For example flamer templates ignore cover.

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Hollismason wrote:Yeah I would have to read the specific entry, but it does say that Cover Saves are a type of inbulnerable save and uses the wording.

No, it doesn't. See pages 20-21, where "Armour Saves," "Invulnerable Saves," and "Cover Saves" each have their own headings and description. Then see pg. 24, under "Models with more than one save."

Hollismason wrote:Yeah I would have to read the specific entry, but it does say that Cover Saves are a type of inbulnerable save and uses the wording.


If someone could preint the entry that would be great.

inbulnerable.


EDIT: nice try though