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1) If a Nob (or a Sergeant or whatever) is inside a group of troops toting around a power klaw, it seems from reading everyone's posts that the Nob can't be targetted. Is that correct? Clearly he can't be shot at, but I am unclear on whether he can be targetted in melee combat. Particularly, what happens when he is in base to base contact with the opponent? Wouldn't that mean that he would be targetted automatically by anything that is actually touching his base, and anything within 2 inches of that base would also be able to beat him down?

I'm just curious how close I can get him to the front since he is typically carrying a slugga instead of a shoota which makes his range pitiful. It isn't too hard to keep him in the second row to avoid having a discussion about it, but it would be nice to know how OCD I should be about it.


2) If you are a victim of tank shock, what happens when you pass your test? I see in the rules where it says that you can opt to make a last stand with one troop, but what if I don't want to? If I choose not to, does that mean that I have to break and run like a sissy? Or do my guys simply make way for the tank and watch as it goes by? I don't see anything in 5th edition that spells that out clearly. When you've got a group of guys with strength 8 max weapons getting tank shocked by a land raider, it doesn't make much sense to stand and shoot. I'm assuming my boyz automatically pass the test since it checks against leadership and I am fearless in large groups.


3) Is the fearless additional loss rule at all related to the number of troops on the field? I have been told that it is in one gaming group, but I think they are pulling my leg since I can't find anything that explicitly states that. So if my group of 30 boyz is hit by a group of 8 genestealers and they beat my face in for a liberal 16 wounds, and in response I only pull off 5 wounds, do their 3 guys manage to overrun me for an additional 11 wounds despite being outnumbered 14 to 3? Rules seem to say yes, but I want to confirm for my own personal peace of mind.

1) Upgrade characters, like Nobs and Sergeants, are treated as part of the unit in close combat; they cannot be picked out. Attacks are made against the unit as a whole, and normal wound allocation rules apply.

2) If you pass the Tank Shock test, you may choose to "Death or Glory!" The (rest of the) squad just moves out of the way if necessary, by the shortest path.

3) Outnumbering is irrelevant. If a squad of genestealers inflicts 16 casualties, and you kill 5 of them, you lose combat by 11, and take 11 "No retreat" wounds.

Ummm... yah what Janthkin said.

1) You treat all members of a squad the same for wound allocation purposes. The only exception to this is independent characters that join the unit. So the nob can't be targeted anymore than a specific orc boy could...which is not at all.

2) If you chose to not death or glory, then you just move out of the way (if the tank stoped on top of you).

3) The rules for outnumbering your opponent are from back in 4th edition. They were removed in 5th and now the only thing that matters is how many wounds they did minus the number of wounds you did. That number is how much you lost combat by and how many "no retreat" wounds you take.