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Wound Allocation claification

Simple unit allocation: all armor saves and Wounds are applied unit wide there is no wound allocation necessary.

Complex unit allocation: Say you have a 6 man devastator squad a Sergeant (no upgrades or extra equip), 2 marines w/ plasma cannon, and 3 normal marines.

And say you receive several wounds 10 with AP 4 and 3 with ap 1.

And you apply them as follows

Sergeant: 2 @ AP 4
P. Cannon: 2 @ AP 4
P. Cannon: 2 @ AP 4
Marine: 2 @ AP 4
Marine: 2 @ AP 4
Marine: All 3 AP 1 wounds

This is a legal allocation however it is not applied the way you think, pick up the 4 wounds from the 2 Plasma cannon marines and roll all 4 and apply any wounds to the 2 man subgroup.

As for the 3 regular marines along with their regular sergeant first apply 3 ap 1 wounds. THIS KILLS 3 MARINES NOT 1, then last marine must save against 6 wounds @ AP 4.

You're almost correct in the way you apply the wounds, but you don't really allocate to models the way you describe.

Sergeant: 2 AP4 wounds
2 Plasma Cannons: 4 AP4 wounds
3 Marines: 4 AP4 wounds and 3 AP1 wounds

You roll the wounds for each group simultaneously, and any failed saves are removed from that group.

So you roll 2 saves for the sergeant, if you fail one or more, he dies.
You roll 4 saves for the plasma cannons, however many you fail, you remove that many Plasma cannon marines.
You roll 4 saves for the regular marines, and however many you fail, you remove that many regular marines + 3 from the AP1.

The sergeant has a different stat line than regular marines, so you can't group them.

Question:

In an assault there are 2 normally identical models but one has 1 wound left the other 2. They are then dealt 3 wounds one ignored Armor and one allows normal saves all at the same I. Could you Allocate the one ignore armor wound to the Model with 2 wounds (not with one left after it takes the wound) and the other 2 savable wounds to the guy with one Wound on it?

psf3077 wrote:Question:

In an assault there are 2 normally identical models but one has 1 wound left the other 2. They are then dealt 3 wounds one ignored Armor and one allows normal saves all at the same I. Could you Allocate the one ignore armor wound to the Model with 2 wounds (not with one left after it takes the wound) and the other 2 savable wounds to the guy with one Wound on it?

Not if they are identical models. When dealing with wounds allocated to a group of identical models you must always allocate wounds in order to remove whole models whenever possible.

You allocate wounds to specific models, but model groups roll together, removing models from the same "group" whenever possible.

One comment on your original post. The sgt is separate from the other regular marines, even if equipped identically. He's got his own statline, making him a unigque model even if his profile and equipment match up to the regular marines. So the sgt would be taking his two saves all by himself.
So the way to 'save' models in your original post would be to put all three AP1 hits on the sgt. He dies, then the regular marines take 6 normal saves, sharing any failed saves amongst themselves.

psf3077 wrote:Question:

In an assault there are 2 normally identical models but one has 1 wound left the other 2. They are then dealt 3 wounds one ignored Armor and one allows normal saves all at the same I. Could you Allocate the one ignore armor wound to the Model with 2 wounds (not with one left after it takes the wound) and the other 2 savable wounds to the guy with one Wound on it?

Sure... sort of.

Since they are identical, what you would do is roll 2 saves. Then you would have 1-3 wounds to distribute. (1 from the 'ignore armor' and 0-2 from the saves you just rolled.) the first wound must go on the wounded model, then the others would go on the second model. So, in effect, it does what you asked; just not the way you asked it.

Now, if the one that ignored saves also caused Instant Death; it would go on the unwounded model; killing it, then any other wounds would go on the injured model.

Wait,

so differing amounts of remaining wounds don't make the models count as different for the purpose of allocation?

For instance 2 ravenors, one has 1 wound the other has 2 wounds, but they're both rolled as one group?

Correct. wounds remaining does not change their profile or their equipment.

Great job Don Mondo