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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 00:13:27
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Just wondered whether anybody had some general advice for dealing with Cavalry. I play Menites but any generic advice would be good. It seems odd in a game thats meant to be about the jacks the horse is still king.
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 00:24:33
Subject: Re:Dealing with Cavalry
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Madrak Ironhide
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It's an army game, really, so I like seeing the cavalry.
The thing with Cavalry is that they're hittable (Defense 13 or 12) and their large bases
create Line of Sight easily. Cavalry do best on the charge, and often an army with cavalry
will get first strike against an army without.
If they get stuck, they will probably try to use a Ride By attack order in order to attack and
reposition.
One way to deal with them is to bait them and counter-charge with something. If your
opponent has access to movement enhancing abilities this might be easier said than done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 00:25:46
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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If you have anything that can knock them down, use it. They can't get up and charge while leaving their downed buddies behind. Or just run something fast up and engage them. Exemplar Vengers are weaponmasters but not all cavalry are, and it's still weaker than their lance hits, in addition to robbing them of their trample attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 01:09:29
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Madrak Ironhide
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Spellbound wrote:If you have anything that can knock them down, use it. They can't get up and charge while leaving their downed buddies behind. Or just run something fast up and engage them. Exemplar Vengers are weaponmasters but not all cavalry are, and it's still weaker than their lance hits, in addition to robbing them of their trample attacks.
Weapon specialists, unfortunately :(
I still love em'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 01:32:40
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Well, weapon specialist = weapon master with given weapon, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 01:42:04
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Madrak Ironhide
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Yes, but it still makes me sad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 13:43:54
Subject: Re:Dealing with Cavalry
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Regular Dakkanaut
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You really gotta deal with cavalry on your own terms or they will deal with you. As said before, you need to have something ready to sacrifice to them if you do not have any way to get the charge on them. I most recently used my nightmare for a turn one charge on the cygnar version of cav with mortenebra. They were done.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 14:03:04
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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With Menites, you have a variety of cheap troops to throw out there. Zealots with a Monolith Bearer would work well, and with Greater Destiny, they're unkillable for a turn. Also, Zealots can do some Firebomb damage. As others have noted, their defense isn't great, and with the Warpriest's +2 to hit/damage, you can potentially take down a few.
The most important thing is to realize how they can function and what they can - and most importantly - can't do. Especially in regards to impact hits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 15:55:18
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Master of the Hunt
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In general, Cavalry needs to charge to be effective. If you can deny them the charge in some way, you're thinking in the right direction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/16 16:59:54
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Rampaging Reaver Titan Princeps
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Thanks a lot you've been very helpful.
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"But me no buts! Our comrades get hurt. Our friends die. Falkenburg is a knight who swore an oath to serve the church and to defend the weak. He'd be the first to tell you to stop puling and start planning. Because what we are doing-at risk to ourselves-is what we have sworn to do. The West relies on us. It is a risk we take with pride. It is an oath we honour. Even when some soft southern burgher mutters about us, we know the reason he sleeps soft and comfortable, why his wife is able to complain about the price of cabbages as her most serious problem and why his children dare to throw dung and yell "Knot" when we pass. It's because we are what we are. For all our faults we stand for law and light.
Von Gherens This Rough Magic Lackey, Flint & Freer
Mekagorkalicious -Monkeytroll
2017 Model Count-71
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/17 00:23:25
Subject: Re:Dealing with Cavalry
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Mechanithrall
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Denying them their speed and or movement seems to be the best way to deal with them, iirc. If they can't run up and hit you, you're better able to get a charge on them beforehand. It nullifies their biggest strength and makes them more open for you to throw things at them.
I don't own any calv myself and I rarely play opposite them, but rough terrain slows them down, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/17 05:13:27
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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yes, but the piper fixes that. Depending on your timing they may surprise you. For example, Protectorate Cavalry gain pathfinder if you damage one of them. Be careful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/17 17:09:23
Subject: Dealing with Cavalry
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Widowmaker
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If you can't get the charge, you might be better suited to running to engage. As others have said, most of the cavalry are lackluster once stuck in combat.
Barring that, upkeeps and spells that effect entire units are great against cav. Anything that can reduce their speed by even an inch will prevent their powerful charge bonuses.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/18 19:30:34
Subject: Re:Dealing with Cavalry
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Fixture of Dakka
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Kill the leader and scare them off. Works on all of them that aren't fearless. Their high movement may take them off the table before they get chance to rally.
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