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Spawn of Chaos





i have seen articles on how to beat it but i dont know exactly what it is and how it is played...

i hear it is going to be a big army this tournament season, thats about all i know.

so anyone that knows what exactly is in it and how it is played let me know : D

thanks for the help.

definition of tournament: a competition in which contestants play a series of games to determine an overall winner.

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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine





Standard Lash armies consist of:

2x Demon Prince: Mark of Slaanesh, Wings, Lash of Submission
6-9 Obliterators
2-4 units of Plague Marines with Rhinos
Termies/Berserkers/whatever else fits the rest of the points
   
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade




Lafayette, IN

Referencing the above build skeleton, the demon princes use psychic power lash of submission to pull your troops into the open for the obliterators to drop plasma plates on them. It is very effective. The princes can also, in the late game, lash your guys 2d6" off of an objective.

It is a hated build and you will not make many friends running it.
   
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Spawn of Chaos





now i understand why there talked about so much...

definition of tournament: a competition in which contestants play a series of games to determine an overall winner.

Ooooohhhhhh C-A-T-S CATS CATS CATS!

I suk at speling :/ 
   
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine





It is arguably one of the 3 best armies in the game in terms of powerlevel and effectiveness actually.

Further explanation on how to abuse lash: the movement that results form the power affecting a unit is carried out like normal movement, so you can force units like bikes to take dangerous terrain tests by moving them into/over terrain. you can also bunch units up really tight so you can maximize the effect of the plasma cannons. You can also move units into assault range of your CC units and get charges off against them. The ability to control opposing units is absolutely devastating and you can literally pull the opposing player's structure apart unit by unit.

Other popular varations of lash lists run Defilers and Vindicators instead of or in addition to Oblits, the big blast template is brutal with lash. More fluffy versions of the list use Noise Marines and/or Slaanesh marked CSMs as troops. You can also retain the fluffy aspect by taking units from each of the gods for a Black Legion theme. The mechanic is so strong that it almost doesn't matter what you take with it, it will still be very, very good. Plague Marines are ideal because they're incredibly resilient and since you have lash + blast templates for your offensive power, the PMs fill that defensive role and are scoring units.
   
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Spawn of Chaos





You said it is one of the top 3...what are the other two?

thanks guys

definition of tournament: a competition in which contestants play a series of games to determine an overall winner.

Ooooohhhhhh C-A-T-S CATS CATS CATS!

I suk at speling :/ 
   
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Spawn of Chaos





top 2 armies is what i ment fyi.just clearing it up.

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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine





The other two are Orks and Demons. It seems hard to build a bad army out of the new Orks codex. Nob Bikes, Green Tide, Loota Spam, Battlewagon spam, all of them are good lists. Demons are just solid, especially Fateweaver, Bloodcrushers, Bloodletters, Plaguebearers, Epedemus, Soul Grinders, Fiends, etc etc. Good Demon armies are able to go tow to tow with anything and have a decent chance of winning.
   
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Spawn of Chaos





Do you think the new guard will make it 4 top armies?

definition of tournament: a competition in which contestants play a series of games to determine an overall winner.

Ooooohhhhhh C-A-T-S CATS CATS CATS!

I suk at speling :/ 
   
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine





It is impossible to tell how the new IG will stack up and we won't know until the book comes out and people start experimenting with it and playing it in major tournaments.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut





Indiana

I dont think guard will after the shine fades. The tanks are sweet but they are still surrounded by 4 pt. kill point bleeding guardsmen.



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Morphing Obliterator





Actually the rumours suggest that the IG KP issue has been solved. If this is true then this combined with the reduced cost of guardsmen and chimeras may make mech guard a force to worry about.

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Polonius wrote:Well, seeing as I literally will die if I ever lose a game of 40k, I find your approach almost heretical. If we were to play each other in a tournament, not only would I table you, I would murder you, your family, every woman you ever loved and burn down your house. I mean, what's the point in winning if you allow people that don't take the game seriously to live?
 
   
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade




Lafayette, IN

That and the fact that they will be able to take "X" transport, move all the way across the board, disembark, and charge.
omg
   
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Executing Exarch






Odenton, MD

Here is an article on the Top tier armies at this time:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Lists_to_beat%2C_the_40k_Meta_Game_as_of_02/22/09
   
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you forgot to mention the top tiered lists are played by people who generally aren't idiots... i say generally because... there are still idiots who do play them... and they still win depsite the rules. high five.

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