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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 17:03:52
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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I have a pretty sizeable Tau army that I havent used in quite awhile. I currently am running Orks at various points levels and was scrounging up some Dark Angels to play in a 750pts game just for the heck of it. I used to love the Tau, but the whole Jump-Shoot-Jump tactic was getting a little boring and obvious. I was curious if anyone who's heavy into the Tau could recommend some army builds that may not TOTALLY utilize this tactic, though some use of it is probably necessary, if not still a good idea.
Thanks!
T-
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 19:21:17
Subject: Re:Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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There's always the holy-emperor-they're-actually-coming-closer/holy-emperor-it's-raining-crisis-suits charging army of fury....
XV8's
- Twin-linked fusion blasters, target arrays (53)
- Twin-linked flamers, gun drones (51)
- Plasma rifles, flamers, multi-tracker (54)
- Fusion blasters, plasma rifles, multi-tracker (62) - for those annoying 3+ saves...
Cheap suits supported by railguns, maybe piranhas if you're lax on the KP. You've got your anti-tank, anti-infantry, anti-heavy infantry, counter-charge etc...
It's definitely different
And no, I don't run a list like this, I just made it up now...though now it seems mighty tempting...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 19:43:59
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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"the whole Jump-Shoot-Jump tactic was getting a little boring and obvious"
Don't worry, that doesn't work any more thanks to TLoS rules changes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 19:48:57
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Sinewy Scourge
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I'm not a big fan of the crisis suits myself.
However, I do enjoy the my version of the gunline Here is my 1500 point list:
Shadowsun (175)
Firewarrior X6 Devilfish with smart missiles, multitracker, target array (180)
Firewarrior X6 Devilfish with smart missiles, multitracker, target array (180)
Firewarrior X12 (120)
Firewarrior X12 (120)
Firewarrior X12 (120)
Kroot X10 Kroot Hounds X9 (124)
2 Broadsides with target arrays (160)
2 Broadsides with target arrays (160)
2 Broadsides with target arrays (160)
The firewarriors sit in front of the broadsides to provide cover saves and fire. Not too close to prevent template fun.
The devilfish either load up the other 12 warriors and become scorning devilfish always staying out of assault range but hopefully moving less 6 inches to fire both weapons.
The kroot infilitrate into cover and provide the speedbump, don't be afraid to charge with 27 int. 5 attacks.
Shadowsun deals with deep striking or outflanking units and the gunline just keeps firing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 20:01:00
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Shas'o, TL PR, SG, Iridium Armour, 2 shield drones
3 x XV8 Shas'ui, TL + BK, TL PR, SG, Gun Drone, Shield Drone
18 Firewarriors
3 Devilfish, SMS, TA, DP, MT
3 Hammerheads, railgun, BC, DP, MT
Comes in at 1470. 6 very hard to kill skimmers, lots of anti armour and MEQ killing. In 5e firewarriors just aren't as survivable as they used to be. This build is quick, survivable and has plenty of flexible firepower.
For the railgun is the still the bets gun in the game.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 20:52:19
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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asugradinwa wrote:I'm not a big fan of the crisis suits myself.
However, I do enjoy the my version of the gunline Here is my 1500 point list:
Shadowsun (175)
Firewarrior X6 Devilfish with smart missiles, multitracker, target array (180)
Firewarrior X6 Devilfish with smart missiles, multitracker, target array (180)
Firewarrior X12 (120)
Firewarrior X12 (120)
Firewarrior X12 (120)
Kroot X10 Kroot Hounds X9 (124)
2 Broadsides with target arrays (160)
2 Broadsides with target arrays (160)
2 Broadsides with target arrays (160)
The firewarriors sit in front of the broadsides to provide cover saves and fire. Not too close to prevent template fun.
The devilfish either load up the other 12 warriors and become scorning devilfish always staying out of assault range but hopefully moving less 6 inches to fire both weapons.
The kroot infilitrate into cover and provide the speedbump, don't be afraid to charge with 27 int. 5 attacks.
Shadowsun deals with deep striking or outflanking units and the gunline just keeps firing.
I know this post isn't here for this reason, but I would drop 4 Kroot Hounds and put Disruption Pods on your Devilfish. You are already putting TAs, MT, and SMS on it, might as well spend the 10 points to make them infinitely more surviveable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/23 21:03:20
Subject: Re:Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I go with a horde of Kroot and Broadsides:
Crisis Suit Commander w/missile pod, plasma rifle, multi-tracker, reserves thingy
6 Fire Warriors w/Devilfish with smart missiles + disruption pod
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
Works better than you'd think.
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All in all, fact is that Warhammer 40K has never been as balanced as it is now, and codex releases have never been as interesting as they are now (new units and vehicles and tons of new special rules/strategies each release -- not just the same old crap with a few changes in statlines and points costs).
-Therion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/24 20:44:47
Subject: Re:Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
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40kenthusiast wrote:I go with a horde of Kroot and Broadsides:
Crisis Suit Commander w/missile pod, plasma rifle, multi-tracker, reserves thingy
6 Fire Warriors w/Devilfish with smart missiles + disruption pod
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
Works better than you'd think.
that looks like a very fun list to play/ play against
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/24 22:48:23
Subject: Re:Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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40kenthusiast wrote:I go with a horde of Kroot and Broadsides:
Crisis Suit Commander w/missile pod, plasma rifle, multi-tracker, reserves thingy
6 Fire Warriors w/Devilfish with smart missiles + disruption pod
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
20 Kroot, 10 Hounds
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
3 Broadsides w/multi-tracker, leader has targeting array
Works better than you'd think.
9 sets of TL railguns are gunna hurt any way you look at it. Ouchies XD
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/24 23:04:46
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Somewhere in the confinds of central Jersey
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hurt your wallet at $35 a pop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/24 23:20:33
Subject: Re:Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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Btw, this is my fielded army (still newish to war 40K, but been reading info for years XD)
1169 pts total
Shas'O XV8 suit
- Airbursting frag projector
- Plasma rifle
- Command and control node
- Stimulant Injector
- Multi-tracker
- failself detonator (hey, always had it for the self-destruct XD)
1xXV8 crisis battlesuit
- fusion blaster
- plasma rifle
- multi-tracker
- targetting array
1xXV8 crisis battlesuit
- missile pod
- plasma rifle
- multi-tracker
- targetting array
1x Hammerhead gunship
- Railgun
- Distruption pod
8x Gun drone squad (i love drones ;3)
16x kroot
6x fire warriors
- team leader
- Bonded
6x fire warriors
- team leader
- Bonded
6x fire warriors
- team leader
- Bonded
6x fire warriors
- team leader
- Bonded
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/24 23:21:38
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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yermom wrote:hurt your wallet at $35 a pop.
in aus it's 55 bucks a broadside >.>
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/25 14:11:27
Subject: Re:Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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asugradinwa wrote:
The firewarriors sit in front of the broadsides to provide cover saves and fire. Not too close to prevent template fun.
Not to derail this thread completely, but how do your broadsides provide any templates? Only Hammerhead railguns give you submunitions.
OT - If you don't like JSJ-ing suits, try mechtau. Fish mounted FW's backed up by 3 Hammerheads. Works just like a mechdar army but with higher strength/longer range weaponry (no psyker support though  )
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While you sleep, they'll be waiting...
Have you thought about the Axis of Evil pension scheme? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/25 16:48:20
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Dangerous Outrider
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I rarley use kroot and I always seem to end on the winning end. My friend this is what I say to you.
Marker lights
Skyrays
Firewarriors
Hammerheads
XV-88's
As the Tau you do not need to assault, you have range on yoru side, use it. 72" of very mean and crazy Rail-guns is VERY mean.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/02/25 17:15:48
Subject: Tau: Still just a one trick pony? All you Greater-Do-Gooders out there, come on in!
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Confessor Of Sins
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I think a lot of people have forgotten just how to use tactics. The Tau have some fast skimmers which can give themselves cover saves. Take advantage of this!!
Pirahna units with flechete launchers are your friend  Give them Fusion blasters, take them in big groups, don't worry about targeting arrays.
small minimum sized troop squads with warfish are also good.
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