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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 03:41:46
Subject: Sniper Rifles
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I was just looking over the sniper tactics on the GW site and it says they hit on a 2+. Is this true? Or do you have to roll their BS in order to hit?
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/03/02 04:02:33
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 03:45:36
Subject: Sniper Rifles
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Lieutenant General
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You're probably looking at an article left over from 3rd or 4th edition.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 03:59:33
Subject: Re:Sniper Rifles
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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That's what I thought. So you use their BS in determining hits like any other unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 09:18:55
Subject: Re:Sniper Rifles
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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s1gns wrote:That's what I thought. So you use their BS in determining hits like any other unit.
Sniper is a weapon characteristic like melta or blast. If the description says nothing of changing the way they hit then you use the standard procedure.
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In one game turn an Imperial guardsman can move 6", kill a few guys with his flamer, assault 6", kill two more guys with his bayonet, flee 12", regroup when assaulted, react 6", kill one more guy with his bayonet and then flee another 12".
So in one game turn an Imperial guardsman can move 42" and kill more than 5 people. At the same time a Chimera at top speed on a road can move 18"... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 14:24:11
Subject: Sniper Rifles
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Old Rules.
Before it was hit on 2+, Now its Hit on BS but have Rending.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 20:20:47
Subject: Re:Sniper Rifles
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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The models that are wounded by a sniper rifle are still entitled to an armour save/cover save correct? It says that it wounds on a 4+, with a roll of 6 delivering a wound and counts as AP2. Judging from that I think that a roll of 4 or 5 to wound would still give the opposing troop an armour/cover save.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 20:32:20
Subject: Sniper Rifles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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That is correct, Sniper Rifles do allow armor or cover saves (also Invulnerable saves).
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In the dark future, there are skulls for everyone. But only the bad guys get spikes. And rivets for all, apparently welding was lost in the Dark Age of Technology. -from C.Borer |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 20:35:09
Subject: Re:Sniper Rifles
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Ahh, forgot the invuln save. Whoops
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 20:42:30
Subject: Sniper Rifles
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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You are indeed correct. Even on a Roll to Wound of 6 A sniper only Counts as AP2, that means they still get cover/Invulnerable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 23:47:08
Subject: Sniper Rifles
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Waaaaaaagh! wrote:You are indeed correct. Even on a Roll to Wound of 6 A sniper only Counts as AP2, that means they still get cover/Invulnerable.
Am I the only one finding that sentence odd?
As if AP had any relevance in allowing cover/invulnerable saves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/02 23:53:05
Subject: Re:Sniper Rifles
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I sort of see what you mean. AP doesn't apply to cover saves in which you could choose. The invulnerable save is just common knowledge.
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