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Is the lash considered a psychic shooting attack? I don't think it is but there seems to b debate at my lgs.

"A psycher may use this psychic power in the Shooting phase instead of using another ranged weapon" should pretty much cover any problems.

It may not count as firing a weapon like Bolt of Tzeentch, but if the model can only fire one weapon then that model can't lash and fire a diffent weapon. Otherwise, it seems completely academic whether it's a "psychic shooting attack" because the power doesn't require rolling to hit, it doesn't cause any wounds, and nothing which can take lash can take any options where it would make a difference.

That's not really my question though. I understand he can't use lash and fire a proverbial bolt pistol. My real question is, can he lash squad A and assault squad B?

"A psyker may use this psychic power in the Shooting phase instead of using another ranged weapon."

While this statement does imply that the power would follow the rules for shooting, ti does not actually state so. When you combine this with the rulebooks definition of "psychic shooting attacks" you can see that there is actually a bit of a grey area.

IMO just play it with the same restrictions as a shooting attack, otherwise you'll get into arguments with people who don't want to adapt to new editions.

natural selection would dictate the old rules to be weaker, inferior rules as they are of the previous generation... And arguing with the previous generation can be rewarding and lulzy.

Any GT rulings? Somebody has to know if lash A assault B is legit.

Kungfuhustler wrote:Any GT rulings? Somebody has to know if lash A assault B is legit.

In the US, GW doesn't publish any GT rulings, so I'm not sure what you're looking for. If you're playing in a tourney using the INAT FAQ we have indeed ruled that Lash is a psychic shooting attack.


If you look at the final FAQ question on the first page of the GW CSM FAQ (the one about Ahriman using multiple powers) you'll see that it says that both Gift of Chaos and Warptime do not count as a psychic shooting attack.

While this certainly does not explicitly mean that Lash *is* a psychic shooting attack, its as good an indication as we're going to get from GW currently.


Also, Lash states that it can be used instead of ANOTHER ranged weapon which does pretty clearly indicate that Lash is a ranged weapon which would indeed make it a psychic shooting attack.



So no, I do not believe you are allowed to Lash one unit and assault another.

There was a thread about this awhile back. However it was not conclusive, but that was more due to people refusing to acknowledge obvious points than to it actually being inconclusive. You can probably find it with search. RAI of course it is i think, and even if it isn't it should be because its overpowered enough as it is.