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HQ 365
Ghazghkull Thraka 225
Warboss w/Warbike, PK, Cybork Body, & Bosspole 140
Elites 75
5x Lootas, 1 Mek 75
Troops 600
20x 'Ard Boyz, Nob w/ Big Choppa & Bosspole, 2x Big Shootas 230
10x Trukk Boyz, 1 Big Shoota, Nob w/ Big Choppa, 'Eavy Armour, & Bosspole 150
10x Trukk Boyz, 1 Big Shoota, Nob w/ Big Choppa, 'Eavy Armour, & Bosspole 140
20x Gretchin, 2 Runtherds
Fast Attack 335
3x Warbikers, Nob w/ PK 110
3x Warbikers, Nob w/ Big Choppa 90
3x Deffkoptas w/ TL Rokkit Launchas 135
Heavy Support 125
Battlewagon w/ Kannon, 4x Big Shootas, & Grot Riggers 125

Total: 1,500

Going for a Speed Freeks army here. I already plan to drop one of the HQs once I get some more stuff. I'll use the extra points for some Nob Bikers or Heavy Support, since I'm lacking in Elites and Heavies right now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Yeah, you don't really need Ghaz. Instead I'd downgrade the 'ard boyz, loose the lootas, the warbikers and combine all that into a nob biker unit. Oh and I think dropping 3 Big Shootas and the Riggers and getting the Deffrolla is a better deal.

Awesome, a lot of the upgrades on this list are just because of a lack of models. The Deff Rolla is definitely a better option seeing how I don't even get to shoot the big shootas on the battlewagon when it moves full speed, but I'll wait for the plastic sprue for that.

Your math confuses me, and i think some of it may be wrong... well i know some of the numbers are wrong, because you have different totals on the identical biker squads, but the math may be correct but just written wrong, i dont know i'm too lazy to add it up. On topic, however I suggest you drop the grots and replace them with stormboyz so they can keep up with your bikers, and replace Ghaz with something, on KoS he doesnt really work.

iamthecougar wrote:Your math confuses me, and i think some of it may be wrong... well i know some of the numbers are wrong, because you have different totals on the identical biker squads, but the math may be correct but just written wrong, i dont know i'm too lazy to add it up. On topic, however I suggest you drop the grots and replace them with stormboyz so they can keep up with your bikers, and replace Ghaz with something, on KoS he doesnt really work.

The biker squads aren't identical.

Small squads don't cut it.
Better take one large Biker mob than two small mobz. One causualty and the mobz might be gone.
Lootas only have a serious impact if they are 10 models or more.
In a 1500 pt list of Speed Freakz, you don't need Lootas. Take more Bikerz.

iamthecougar wrote:Your math confuses me, and i think some of it may be wrong... well i know some of the numbers are wrong, because you have different totals on the identical biker squads, but the math may be correct but just written wrong, i dont know i'm too lazy to add it up. On topic, however I suggest you drop the grots and replace them with stormboyz so they can keep up with your bikers, and replace Ghaz with something, on KoS he doesnt really work.

Yeah, biker squads aren't identical. One Nob has a PK the other a Big Choppa. The Trukk Boyz though are listed as different values so to clarify: one trukk has a wreckin' ball the other doesn't. Also Grots are objective holders, not really intended for anything beyond that. For non-objective games though, stormboyz would be a sweet option. Taking out Ghaz will open up a lot of stuff, including more Trukk Boyz, Bikers, and maybe even a second Battlewagon.

wuestenfux wrote:Better take one large Biker mob than two small mobz.

Again, a lack of models. Reason I did that is so I could have two Nob Bikers, only one allowed per squad. Easy solutions are swapping those all out for Nob bikers or taking the Nobs out into another squad.

wuestenfux wrote:In a 1500 pt list of Speed Freakz, you don't need Lootas.

Lootas are the only heavy firepower I have, aside from the Battlewagon and Deffkoptas, so I might just expand that squad to ten or fifteen. Any expansion will be easy once Ghaz's 225 points are freed up.
Thanks for the feedback.

My bad on typing the wrong squad, i meant the trukk boyz and in my defence i've been stoned out of my mind for the last couple days LEGALLY i swear... root canal... anyway, i dont have my codex so i cant check but you i think you can fit 20 boys in a battlewagon if you dont put on a killkannon, is that what you were planning for the ard boys? Because i think that would be a good choice then, you save them from getting shot and basically make them three times as likely to survive cc. And even as an objective holding unit, you dont need that many grots, just take ten and the runtherd and hide them behind it that way you get an extra 40 points to spend on other things, add that to the points from ghaz ,and you can almost afford another mob of 20 in a battlewagon, kill two birds with one choppa.

My thoughts:
HQ
Warboss w/Warbike, PK, Cybork Body, attack squig & Bosspole 155

Troops
20x 'Ard Boyz, Nob w/ Power Klaw & Bosspole 235
10x Trukk Boyz, Nob w/ Power Klaw & Bosspole, trukk w/red paint and reinforced ram 152
10x Trukk Boyz, Nob w/ Power Klaw & Bosspole, trukk with red paint and reinforced ram 152
19x Gretchin, 1 Runtherds 67

Fast Attack
3x Warbikers, Nob w/ PK 110
3x Warbikers, Nob w/ PK 110
3x Deffkoptas w/ TL Rokkit Launchas 135

Heavy Support 115
Battlewagon w/ Kannon, Big Shootas, red paint & Grot Riggers 115

That is ~ 2031

Some options:
You can drop 1 'ard boy and add mad doc grotsnik to the wagon. 4+,4+ saves and a pk'ed boss for 150
Add a 10 man kommando squad with 2 flamers and snikrot for 215
Add more trukks, red paint, reinforced ram and 12 boys with nob, pk, bp 152 each
Add a battlewagon with red paint, riggers, kannon and big shoota with 15 burna boys for 340
Add a mob to run up while he is dealing with the fast attack. Warboss with pk, bp, cybork, attack squig and 30 boys with a nob pk,bp 335

iamthecougar wrote:i think you can fit 20 boys in a battlewagon if you dont put on a killkannon, is that what you were planning for the ard boys? Because i think that would be a good choice then, you save them from getting shot and basically make them three times as likely to survive cc. And even as an objective holding unit, you dont need that many grots, just take ten and the runtherd and hide them behind it that way you get an extra 40 points to spend on other things, add that to the points from ghaz ,and you can almost afford another mob of 20 in a battlewagon, kill two birds with one choppa.

Yeah the twenty 'ard boyz are in the battlewagon and they work really well. Another one of those minus the 'eavy armour would be awesome.

Inigo Montoyta wrote:Add a battlewagon with red paint, riggers, kannon and big shoota with 15 burna boys for 340

How about some burnas in a trukk? For whatever reason, I find that more appealing. That and the second battlewagon could be squeezed in if I take off Ghaz, grots, and some superfluous upgrades. That would be really cool.