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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/14 16:27:39
Subject: Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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I really want to include a full 9 of these orkish arttilary units in my 1500 point army... the only problem is what to chose...
Lobba:
+Does not require Line of Sight
+Requires Pinning Test
+Ignores cover relative to the gun (based on where it lands and only if it a roof)
+kills GEQS with AP 5 and S5
- Does not kill MEQS reliably as they keep their saves...
- Basically a BS2 weapon...
Shokk Attack Gun:
+Can lock a Vehicle out o shooting just by glancing it
+it is AP 2
+Can have the highest Strength about 40% of the time
+Bs 3
- Can only hit 1 target
- 60% of the time it is weaker that a Rokkit Shot (but again has AP 2)
- potential to kill off all the Crew eventually
- Requires LOS
Big Gunz:
+ Versatile
+ the cheapest option
+ good against MEQS (AP 3) and GEQS (AP 5 Blast)
+ A BS 3 rokkit or a grenade that hits its mark 51% of the Time
-requires LOS
-produces weaker shots than the other two...
so what is the best option when you want to field 9 of them... I thought about 2 Big Gun squads of 3 and a lobba squad of three...
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Luke_Prowler wrote:Is it just me, or do Ork solutions always seems to be "More Lootas", "More Boyz" Or "More Power Klaws"?
starbomber109 wrote:Behold, the true ork player lol.
I have to admit, I miss the old Infantry battles of 4E compared to this 5E wonderland of APCs/IFVs everywhere. It's like we jumped from WWI to WWII.
ChrisCP wrote: KFFs... Either 50% more [anti-tank] than your opponent expects or 50% less [anti-tank] than you expect.
Your worlds will burn until their surface is but glass. Your destruction is for the Greater Good, and we are instruments of Its most Glorious Path.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/14 16:49:45
Subject: Re:Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Hellacious Havoc
Edmonton area, Canada
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Personally, I like Kannons.
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8k CSM, legion 2, founding chapter 'Faceless Reavers' and auxiliary forces
2k 'Waaaghboss Gorzag's Trukkladz'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/14 17:01:48
Subject: Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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QuietOrkmi:
You seem confused. The Ork Big Guns unit includes the options of Kannons, Lobbas, and Zzap Guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/14 17:23:42
Subject: Re:Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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I have always been a kannon fan. Of course in the last book the solid shot got 2d6 pen. Its still useful tho.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/14 18:57:08
Subject: Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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The Kannon was very cool when it got the ordnance shot in the last edition. I could have sworn that they were going to make it an Ordnance Blast weapon in this edition, but them's the breaks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/14 19:04:04
Subject: Re:Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Longtime Dakkanaut
The ruins of the Palace of Thorns
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You have described Zzap Guns but said Shokk Attack Guns.
I like both Kannons and Zzap Guns.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/14 22:58:04
Subject: Re:Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Stinky Spore
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I'll put in a vote for 9 lobbas myself. In smaller groups/fewer choices, I might opt for the others (as individual shot-for-shot you're probably better off with kannons for vehicle busting/MEQ killing and zzaps for termi busting).
Yet a full 9 lobbas would be more devastating than people think. They won't fair well against mechanized lists (until folks dismount), but 3 sets of 3 barrages would be a lot of saves forced... and saves forced are saves failed.
Cheers.
p.s. Classic avatar... the 1/2 orc barbarian from Dragon magzine's "Ugly Heroes" pictures. Nice stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/15 01:12:18
Subject: Re:Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
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I would suggest kannons because they are inexpensive, and decent ranged anti-tank. Orks have lots of anti-infantry, but lack ranged anti-tank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/15 01:22:40
Subject: Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Kannons. If only Lobbas were large blasts...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/15 16:43:11
Subject: Re:Lobba VS Big Gunz VS Shokk Attack Gun
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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The kannons worked out fine because I was able to throw more S8 shots with AP 3, they wrecked a skimmer with 3 shots and killed 3 scout bikes (he broke them up from 6) for the rest of the game the kannons did nothing but needless to say in the first turn of the game they paid for themselves four times over...
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Luke_Prowler wrote:Is it just me, or do Ork solutions always seems to be "More Lootas", "More Boyz" Or "More Power Klaws"?
starbomber109 wrote:Behold, the true ork player lol.
I have to admit, I miss the old Infantry battles of 4E compared to this 5E wonderland of APCs/IFVs everywhere. It's like we jumped from WWI to WWII.
ChrisCP wrote: KFFs... Either 50% more [anti-tank] than your opponent expects or 50% less [anti-tank] than you expect.
Your worlds will burn until their surface is but glass. Your destruction is for the Greater Good, and we are instruments of Its most Glorious Path.
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