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Didn't want to dig out the old thread, I lose Karma when I try Necomancing

So, RE5 is finaly out and I've played a few hours. Apart from the 2-player option it plays a lot like part 4 with some minor changes:
- You can only save after every stage. There are checkpoints, but if you quit a level in the middle you have to start from the beginning, but you can keep your items:
- Items: every character has 9 item slots. If they are full you have to discard stuff to take new stuff with you. But between every level you can store you're weapons in another inventory which you can only acces between missions or after you die and restart from a checkpoint.
- weapon upgrading works like before, but also only between levels as well. You can buy weapons as well, but not from a person like the merchant in RE4
- and one of the bigger changes: opening the inventory in game does not pause the game. You have been warned.

After playing the first 3 stages by myself, I decided that I desperatly needed a buddy to help me out. The AI partner is okay, is some situations, but it works much better if you can talk abpout who's doing what when playing online.

Some people might be annoyed by the following. RE5 isn't really that much about Horror anymore. Most of the action so far took place in broad daylight and there weren't really any "oh my god, the dog just jumped through the window" sequences.

There are however a lot of "OMG! THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM; I HAVE TO GET OUT OF HERE!" moments. And that's the point were the dogs and the chainsaw dudes show up. And don't get me started on the fat dudes. Man, I hate the fat dudes.

All in all, if you read this, you probably already played the demo, which actually, does a very good job showing what you can expect from this game, though each demo level was only about 1/3 of an entire stage. I don't know how many there are though. Yet.

I beat it with a buddy of mine over the weekend. Being a RE game, the story is suitably ridiculous. Unfortunately, unlike RE4, it seems to take itself completely seriously. Sheva's AI is not the best, either. She has an annoying habit of going through the ammo I give her as fast as humanly possible. The game is fun though.

Well well well, it's time to play Resident Evil again. Man Resident Evil 4 was really good huh?

For everyone who wants to play this crappy game: THERE ARE SPOILERS AHEAD.

Yeah Resident Evil 5 sucks hard guys. It's got to be the best worst game I've played in quite a while.

Let me kick this rant off with, this game is slowed.

Games have been moving in the believable range of stuff lately, so I thought "hey, this is gonna be some scary stuff that could totally happen". Pop the disc in play part of the first level, turn it off. Get my sister who is an avid gamer, we continue playing co-op split screen. Within the first few chapters everything believable about the Resident Evil universe is erased for good. Black, erhm I mean African, people with plagas in them totally cool, just like the last game. Giant guy with a huge hammer that instant deaths you if you touches you with it. Ok I can see that, guy with a huge hammer/axe thing totally scary. I mean to children, it's gotta scare someone or be intimidating to someone right? My sister and I deftly run past him anytime he is near.

Cool more game, all right. Wesker is involved? Sweet, he is the best villain from the RE franchise. Oh he can... teleport now? Gay. He has anime super powers that make him immune to guns, this is totally the stupidest thing I have seen in games that get distributed to American audiences in good frequency in quite awhile. I'll swallow this Capcom, only because your forcing me though.

Ok, skip skip skip, we're capping more black people... I mean Africans. Sometimes things get to arbitrarily instant death you in one scene but as soon as that isn't new and super powerful anymore you can kill it, unlike in the previous scene when you run from one. You can now fight dozens without any help. Boss fights are pretty cool with two people. Some I dare say will be impossible with the computer controlled partner.

Sweet another boss battle! Ok guy on a boat we'll take care of you! Ok shoot him! What? Oh yeah finish the dialogue, totally cool. I mean I let my villains in any other game do it. Injecting yourself with something sir? Ok yeah I can beat your ass when you have a few powers not hard at all. Oh... you've transformed into a 90 foot tall 200 ton behemoth with very complex swimming mechanisms and methods of attack... in under a minute? I should have just not bought this game right? Is that what your telling me Capcom? Well at least that boss had the courtesy to show me his giant glowing weak points and then arbitrarily expose his most vital point to... not really attack me, just give me a chance to kill him.

Oh noes, now we have a sub plot where the people we work for is working for Umbrella! NO WAY! I totally didn't see this coming as soon as this organization was mentioned. Of course if the organization has a name it will inevitably end up being Umbrella involved or actually Umbrella in a new guise. But what the hell, this isn't that bad. But of course making super soldiers isn't that cool either. You don't need super soldiers if you just nuke a countries major cities with the zombie virus. On a quick side note, everything has tentacles now, no exceptions. Don't plan to play a RE game without tentacles anymore.

I'm not going to go any further than this. Haven't beaten it yet but we're getting close. We'll have some more play time Wednesday after my work and her school.

One last thing, Sheva is a very light skinned bla- African because she is one of the good guys. This game is racist.

well i've been playing for 2 days now and done the first 3 stages solo, and have decided that i'm not playing without a second party. The reaction time is painfully slow compared to Fear 2 *which i have reverted back to until i find a friend*

Typeline wrote: Games have been moving in the believable range of stuff lately, so I thought "hey, this is gonna be some scary stuff that could totally happen". Pop the disc in play part of the first level, turn it off. Get my sister who is an avid gamer, we continue playing co-op split screen. Within the first few chapters everything believable about the Resident Evil universe is erased for good. Black, erhm I mean African, people with plagas in them totally cool, just like the last game. Giant guy with a huge hammer that instant deaths you if you touches you with it. Ok I can see that, guy with a huge hammer/axe thing totally scary. I mean to children, it's gotta scare someone or be intimidating to someone right? My sister and I deftly run past him anytime he is near.

I already mentioned before, yes, it's not that "scary" anymore, but actually it doesn't really bother me that much. 0-3 were good games, but I'm glad the series evolved. RE4 did get those great reviews for a reason.

Cool more game, all right. Wesker is involved? Sweet, he is the best villain from the RE franchise. Oh he can... teleport now? Gay. He has anime super powers that make him immune to guns, this is totally the stupidest thing I have seen in games that get distributed to American audiences in good frequency in quite awhile. I'll swallow this Capcom, only because your forcing me though.

I didn't mind that at all. We already knew he had some "super powers" from injecting himself with the Virus in RE1 which got triggered after he was stabbed by the Tyrant. Also
And he doesn't "teleport" he just can move really really fast. Which I have no problem with. To me, he's still one of the coolest bad guys in videogame history.

Ok, skip skip skip, we're capping more black people... I mean Africans. Sometimes things get to arbitrarily instant death you in one scene but as soon as that isn't new and super powerful anymore you can kill it, unlike in the previous scene when you run from one. You can now fight dozens without any help. Boss fights are pretty cool with two people. Some I dare say will be impossible with the computer controlled partner.

Just out of curiositiy, on which difficulty setting are you playing. I haven't tried out hard mode yet, but I heard the enemies are more aggresive there and most people who played 4 shouldn't have much of a problem with the normal setting. And if you have problems with the fact that some enemies are too easy later in the game you always switch back to your old weapons without any upgrades
I agree about the bossfights. Especially the bat creature very early in the game can only be fought right if you attack him from both sides. Same thing for the first battle with Wesker and sometimes the "Reaper" creatures too.

Oh noes, now we have a sub plot where the people we work for is working for Umbrella! NO WAY! I totally didn't see this coming as soon as this organization was mentioned. Of course if the organization has a name it will inevitably end up being Umbrella involved or actually Umbrella in a new guise. But what the hell, this isn't that bad. But of course making super soldiers isn't that cool either. You don't need super soldiers if you just nuke a countries major cities with the zombie virus.

Well, Umbrella doesn't have that much of a presence.

On a quick side note, everything has tentacles now, no exceptions. Don't plan to play a RE game without tentacles anymore.

Yes, they all have tentacles, what's your problem. The enemies in part 4 also all had tentacles. It's part of the whole Las Plagas concept.
And Nemesis had tentacles too.

One last thing, Sheva is a very light skinned bla- African because she is one of the good guys. This game is racist.

Not this again. The game takes place in Africa so naturally the enemies are African. Personally, I was actually bothered by the fact that a lot of the townsfolks looked too much like Mexicans
In RE4 you were only fighting Spanish people. Does that make the game racist? In Call of Duty 4 I only shoot Russians and Middle-Easterns (is that real word?), does that make the game rascist?

To add some critisism of my own, later in the game you run into some firefights with a few armed Plagas hosts and there's a cover system, but it's pretty clunky compared to other 3rd person shooters like Gears or GTA.

And really works much better if you play it with a friend. The AI Sheva just keeps using her normal pistol until she runs out of ammo and she never uses the knife for anything other then destroying crates.


edited for spelling.

meh, alot of crappy twists in it that dont seem to fit.
like a dead guy comming back (no names here incase of spoiler)

like the new inventory system alot, you cant tell a zombie to wait while you change guns now can you?

online co-op is great fun, allthough it does lead to a few disputes such as; "you fether! thats my ammo!" and various other things.
also, you cannot give your team mate a specific ammount of an item like ammo, it gives it all.

what happened to the "shoot them in the head"?
neck shots seem to be 1 shot kills now, and headshots dont kill them that well (2-3 needed)
allthough the shotgun seems to kick ass on this one, the rifle however, i fething hate it.

also, much more brutal with the punches, allthough possibly a bit over the top now?
helping out team mates is great, allthough killing a friend with a red barrel isnt.

also, the ending is gak!

what happened to the "shoot them in the head"?
neck shots seem to be 1 shot kills now, and headshots dont kill them that well (2-3 needed)

Probably because the Plagas parasite raps itself more around the host's spine.

i know anung, but the only weak spot ive found so far is the neck, and yes, i was sad enough to test out different shots and see how they worked lol.

only thing that really annoys me is some of the "bosses" MR. chainsaw is pretty gak, you can easily keep away from him, but it takes ages of constant shooting to kill him (including using the barrels and power box)
maybe making bosses like that a bit harder?

all bosses from the resi series have been too easy, only annoying one so far being T-zombie, who is just annoying rather than hard, and a waste of decent rounds.


Edit:

just a note for new resi players, dont waste ammo trying to kill everything, its not possible as on most parts the zombies are endless.

They aren't zombies, they're clearly alive and breathing.
And of course the enemies are African, Typeline. IT'S IN AFRICA.

Cheese Elemental wrote:They aren't zombies, they're clearly alive and breathing.
And of course the enemies are African, Typeline. IT'S IN AFRICA.

It's still racist.

Chris Redfield is the poster child for the white power movement, all bulked out and mowing down black people with assault weapons.

And you clearly aren't well-educated, as this isn't the first incident of a white protagonist gunning down black enemies. People don't have a problem with movies that have racist bits in them. You can hardly say that the game is about white power, seeing as it's developed by Capcom, a largely Japanese company.

Get to know pop culture. No-one with sense has a problem with it. Parents councils aren't raving about it, the OFLC/ESRB/whatever don't have a problem with it. You even have a black ally. And yes, some black people DO have lighter skin. Just like some caucasians have olive skin.

A touching moment in RE5:

Cheese Elemental wrote:And you clearly aren't well-educated, as this isn't the first incident of a white protagonist gunning down black enemies. People don't have a problem with movies that have racist bits in them. You can hardly say that the game is about white power, seeing as it's developed by Capcom, a largely Japanese company.

Get to know pop culture. No-one with sense has a problem with it. Parents councils aren't raving about it, the OFLC/ESRB/whatever don't have a problem with it. You even have a black ally. And yes, some black people DO have lighter skin. Just like some caucasians have olive skin.

Don't get all butt hurt about it dude, I'm joking.

But I still don't really like the game that much.

if anyone is even thinking about trying to drag racism into a good game then please, piss off and die somewhere


i think the standards have been set too high by other games (gears, call of duty etc etc) and its kind of cast a shadow over resi, makes it seem out of date allready.

Didn't Jesse Jackson say something about RE5 already? If so then its safe to say that the game is not rascist.

I heard a lot of bad things about the AI, no surprise, but I also remember the makers saying something about them purposefully going away from the horror genre and more towards the action genre.

I think the "old" Resident Evil had a good run. There were, how many, 5 games which played mostly the same. I don't mind it shifting more towards action.

Sorry, Snape kills Dumbledore.

AAAARRRRGGHHHHH!!!!!!!

A friggin' Spoiler Warning would've been nice halo, not everyone already beat the game, you know. Gork Damnit!!!!

Edit: I only have 2 stages left.....

JD21290 wrote:
i think the standards have been set too high by other games (gears, call of duty etc etc) and its kind of cast a shadow over resi, makes it seem out of date allready.

It's not that the standards are set too high, they are set too realistically.

I can see the stuff in gears happening. It's pretty realistic-ish. Call of duty basically happened. But RE5 is just ridiculous. Tentacles are formed by gas, incredibly deadly mutagens just give you more super powers, things like that. The game also uses instant death way too much. I'm not running straight into Wesker and expecting to live, it's just he occasionally gets slightly too close, and without a fast button mash or anything it can't be avoided. He flings you off the screen to your death. Same goes for those stupid bug things, they get too close and your dead. No button press to dodge or anything, your just dead.

I guess Japan just went slowed and thought it would be a great idea to make a Resident Evil game after watching a few seasons of Naruto and Bleach.

Edit: And even though all the stuff about the game being racist was a joke, just because a famous black person says something isn't racist doesn't make it true.

Edit: And even though all the stuff about the game being racist was a joke, just because a famous black person says something isn't racist doesn't make it true.

Did you see that South Park episode too?

There was a South Park episode???

But what I was meaning is that Jesse Jackson is soooo crazy that whatever he says is racist, is NOT rascist.

Typeline, was that ment to be a joke?
your saying the problem with a computer game is that it isnt realistic?
now, dont get me wrong, but i figure thats the idea of most computer games.

on your note about gears; if you play gears 1, then great, never play 2, its a waste of money and gak story to it, not only that, but i ran through it on insane in a few hours.


whats wrong with instant death in a game?
most have it in terms of pits, spikes etc etc.
resi just shows better ways of doing it, allthough in 2 player co-op it does piss you off when your team mate dies because of something stupid they are trying to do. (ie: trying to kill a chainsaw maniac with a knife)

*stabs chainsaw guy with knife

Or if your partner is too stupid to counteract your own stupidity. We would probably win more if MY partners would shoot the chainsaw guy first. I do it to teach them a lesson.

i was shooting him, but since my gak partner had the machine gun and all i had was a pistol it was pretty stupid.

he said he had killed him with a knife before and it saves loads of ammo.
i did try to tell him that there was 8 explosive barrels there for a reason.


thats the other thing that annoys me about resi5 online, i allways get put with the most annoying person possible.
im allways happy to share ammo if needed or even send then grenades / herbs.
the people i get put with generally tend to run off grabbing all the ammo on the way, then expect me to kill anything so they can save thier ammo.

That's not me, chances are I would be using my knife because I used all of the ammo.

So far, I've only played with a good friend of mine who was also looking forward to the game and bought it on the release day. I don't think RE5 is the kind of game I want to play with a stranger...

trust me, its not, im waiting for a friend to buy it as its getting annoying to play with random people.
90% of the time they cant speak english, so thats a slight problem.

Which english?

I seriously have problems with limeys saying gakker all of the time. What the hell is a gakker?!

Edit: Whoa, I meant gakker instead of gak. It begins with a T, ends with a T, and has "wa" in the middle.

english as in the language in general.
most are either mexican or french and i cant understand them

Well, english, mexican spanish, french are somewhat similar to latin. You might be able discern some of what they say. Have you ever played against the japanese or chinese? They're impossible to understand.

Bruce Willis IS dead.

Did you know for a FACT that the yuri section on 4chan is NOT about the russian guy from Red Alert 2? I found that out the hard way...never going there again.