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Rampaging Carnifex





Los Angeles, CA

Ok so this is bugging me... lets get ttogether and hypothesize, is there any good way to field flash gitz? Pros, Cons? heres my thoughts..
Pros: Pretty much just Eavy armored Nobz
Snazzguns, yeah crappy BS but potentially deadly anti infantry.
Survivability, especially witha painboy
Cons: Bad range for the weapons
Potentially slow units, footsloggers
EXPENSIVE

anyways, the subject needs discussion...

Armies I play:
-5000 pts
-2500 pts
Mechanicus -1850 pts 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
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Making them survivable is very expensive, so that is probably their biggest drawback.

Still, they are a fun unit, great for conversion potential, and maybe in a Battlewagon, somewhat OK.

I know...
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut






The land of cotton.

The topic has been hashed over to the point of nausea over at The Waaagh.

Suffice it to say that they can fit into the right army build, but fail miserably when mathshammer is applied. Since mathshammer cannot account for the situations in which a given unit is employed, your results may vary.

As I've been told, the difference between Mathshammer and Real Games is like the difference between theory and reality: In theory there is no difference between theory and reality, but in reality there is.

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Dakka Veteran





bs is potentially overcome with the mass of shots and some ammo grots. only way to overcome the slow part is either buying a battlewagon and eating another hs slot and doesn't help on the expensive front, or kick some trukk boyz out of their trukk. Nothing I can think of overcomes the expensive part, any way we slice it....
   
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Been Around the Block




I plan to have mine in a Battlewagon with the 2 shot ability. Adding anything else for my Boyz is not really needed until the wagon is popped. I may ponder over Painboyz and other things, but for now, it's lots og Bad Moons shooty.

sXe for life! 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Chicago

Not if you plan on playing competitive games. If you're playing friendly games, do what you want.

If you're playing competitively, Flash Gitz suck, and there's no way around it. There's nothing they do that an equal points worth of shoota boyz don't do better, and shoota boyz are a scoring unit as well. Shootas hit harder, fight better, and take a hit better.

   
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Steadfast Grey Hunter





I actually like them because the take up so many points. I normally have around 1500 points, then I add a big, tricked out group of Flash Gitz to get me up really close to 2000. Their performance is pretty "meh", but sometimes they do something cool once in a while.

-A.

Haddi wrote:
Hello Guardsmen, look at your Leman, now back to mine, now back to your Leman, now back to mine. Sadly, your Leman isn't mine, but if they stopped using standard engines and switched to Lucifer Pattern, they could move like they're mine. Look down, back up. Where are you? Your in a battlefield with the Rhino your Leman could move like. Whats in your hand, back at me, I have it, it's the fire control for the Twin-linked Assault Cannons aimed at you. Look again, it's a Deep-Striked Land-Raider. Anything is possible when your Tanks move like Blood Angels, and not like Guardsmen. I'm on a Baneblade. 
   
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Horrific Hive Tyrant





London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

so you waste 500 points on them?
i'd rather take some upgraded kanz and a deff dread or 2.

ive tried, and there is no good way of making them any good, no matter how you use them, they will suck compared to more suited units that are cheaper.

Suffused with the dying memories of Sanguinus, the warriors of the Death Company seek only one thing: death in battle fighting against the enemies of the Emperor.  
   
 
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