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Sorry if this question is elementary. Does a Death Company furioso dreadnought's attacks also count as rending?

Its dreadnought with dreadnought close combat weapons. S10 that makes any armor look like tin-foil, what do you need rending for?

No it is not rending. It would have no effect. Even on armor penetration, you'd already be a '16', which is a Penetrating hit. And DCCW count as S10 powerweapons, so it doesn't help against models with a Toughness value.

nope, DCCW rules are alot better, so i dont see why you would want rending.

The "Black Rage" ability is not listed for Furioso Dreadnoughts, so they don't get the benefit of that rule, although I can understand why there would be confusion since they have a rule called 'Death Company Dreadnought'. Tha confusingly named "Death Company Dreadnought" rule confers its own limitations and benefits, as described in the codex.

Just a 40K newb asking a newb question, that's all.

Thanks though.

dietrich wrote:No it is not rending. It would have no effect. Even on armor penetration, you'd already be a '16', which is a Penetrating hit. And DCCW count as S10 powerweapons, so it doesn't help against models with a Toughness value.

Just a note, DCCW aren't S10 powerweapons, they are double strength power weapons like a power fist, only without the Initiative penalty. Not that it affects the end result here where a Space Marine Dreadnought's S6 is doubled to 10(can't go higher) but if there were a walker with only S4 and DCCW they wouldn't be S10.

There used to be tear attack that let you roll 2d6 for AP.

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Drunkspleen wrote:

dietrich wrote:No it is not rending. It would have no effect. Even on armor penetration, you'd already be a '16', which is a Penetrating hit. And DCCW count as S10 powerweapons, so it doesn't help against models with a Toughness value.

Just a note, DCCW aren't S10 powerweapons, they are double strength power weapons like a power fist, only without the Initiative penalty. Not that it affects the end result here where a Space Marine Dreadnought's S6 is doubled to 10(can't go higher) but if there were a walker with only S4 and DCCW they wouldn't be S10.

Yes, and as they say in France, QFT. Too many people seem to equate Power fist = S8 If i had a penny for every time a new ork player at my local club claimed his deffcoptas were S8 because of the buzzsaw, or that his opponents ork warboss is S8, I'd have more money than Bill Gates (Koptas are S7 on the charge, and s6 after, just so ya know ;p)

I also have a question about the DC dread. It says that they can fight along side the DC. Does that mean they are in the same squad as the DC. I also assume you can have multipul DC dread's.

Is their no answer for this?

No, its just some 'fluff' they threw in for good measure, and yes, there seems to be no limit to the number of Dreads (of any type) you can have.

It's merely fluff text.

It's just an upgrade for the Furioso Dreadnought.

Okay thanks.