2 Ork 1500 Point lists, so Tough Chuck Norris weeps!

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**Gwar!**

Army #1

HQ:
Warboss @ 155 Pts
Warbike; Power Klaw; Slugga; Attack Squig; Bosspole; Cybork Body

HQ:
Warboss @ 155 Pts
Warbike; Power Klaw; Slugga; Attack Squig; Bosspole; Cybork Body

Troops:
6 Nobz + Painboy @ 595 Pts

Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Kombi-Rokkit
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Bosspole
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Waaagh! Banner
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw, Kombi-Scortcha and Bosspole
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw, Kombi-Scortcha and Waaaagh! Banner
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Kombi-Scortcha
Painboy with Warbike, Cybork Body, 'Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools and Grot Orderly.

Troops:
6 Nobz + Painboy @ 595 Pts

Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Kombi-Rokkit
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Bosspole
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Waaagh! Banner
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw, Kombi-Scortcha and Bosspole
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw, Kombi-Scortcha and Waaaagh! Banner
Nob with Warbike, Cybork Body, Klaw and Kombi-Scortcha
Painboy with Warbike, Cybork Body, 'Urty Syringe, Dok's Tools and Grot Orderly.

Total Roster Cost: 1500

Army #2:

HQ:
Ghazghkull Thraka @ 225 Pts

Troops:
Boyz Mob @ 255 Pts
26 Boyz with Choppa & Slugga;
3 Boyz with Rokkit Launcha
1 Boyz Nob with Power Klaw; Slugga; 'Eavy Armour and Bosspole

Boyz Mob @ 255 Pts
26 Boyz with Choppa & Slugga;
3 Boyz with Rokkit Launcha
1 Boyz Nob with Power Klaw; Slugga; 'Eavy Armour and Bosspole

Boyz Mob @ 255 Pts
26 Boyz with Choppa & Slugga;
3 Boyz with Rokkit Launcha
1 Boyz Nob with Power Klaw; Slugga; 'Eavy Armour and Bosspole

Boyz Mob @ 255 Pts
26 Boyz with Choppa & Slugga;
3 Boyz with Rokkit Launcha
1 Boyz Nob with Power Klaw; Slugga; 'Eavy Armour and Bosspole

Boyz Mob @ 255 Pts
26 Boyz with Choppa & Slugga;
3 Boyz with Rokkit Launcha
1 Boyz Nob with Power Klaw; Slugga; 'Eavy Armour and Bosspole

Total Roster Cost: 1500

So, I plan on mostly doing tournaments, but on a scale of 1-10 how quickly will either list lose me friends?

**JD21290**

1st list: footslogging toole dup nobs? pointless.

2nd list: lack of anti tank means they are fethed.

**Gwar!**

JD21290 wrote:1st list: footslogging toole dup nobs? pointless.

2nd list: lack of anti tank means they are fethed.

They are meanto be biker nobs, my bad, thought I put that in

Also, rokkits? Claws? Are they not anti tank?

**JD21290**

thought the list was a tad points heavy

list 1 seems a tad weak, yes, you have 2 tooled up units of biker nobz, does not mean you will win.

at that points level i would drop 1 unit of nobz and take some boyz and as many lootas as possible.

list 2: no, thats not anti-tank, boyz with rokkitz = fail from the start.
15 rokkitz fired per turn 5 hit, now lets face it, thats hardly going to do much.

klaws are good, footslogging claws are not.
you need to get close enough to use them, most mobile armies will just hang back and shoot the feth out of you, leaving your boyz dying in droves and unable to do much in return.

drop a unit of boyz, invest in a mek with KFF.
drop all the rokkitz as they are gak.
buy some rokkit kanz / koptas / buggies.
anything is better than boyz with rokkitz.

**dietrich**

You're likely to lose friends faster with the first list.

**guardpiper**

For the second list I second what JD21290 said. With no armor of your own to threaten enemy armor, I see a long day for your troops as ordinance gets dropped on them for the entire game. I know running and Ghazghkull will help, but still, not a pretty picture. Plus on a small board, you might run into problems of the mobs getting in each others way.

**Matt Varnish**

Well, everyone should by now know that if you take the Ork Nob Biker List, you are TFG pretty much automatically.

And that since it is so powerful because of the wound allocation shenanigans, you can pretty much guarantee it getting nerfed in about 4 years when the next codex comes. Or 10 years if you are dark eldar haha.

Chuck Norris weeps though.. or is that Sly Marbo?

**JD21290**

vindicator: S10 AP2.
whirlwind: S4 AP5 no cover saves.

nob bikers mean nothing.
most pie plates do a good job on them, daemons are amazing against them as letters cut through them before the nobs get to attack.
bloodcrushers simple crush the bikers without any problems.

nob bikerz are "strong" but it doesent mean they cant be killed.
even nidzilla would do well against them.

**augfubuoy**

Get some Lootas for AT in the 2nd list. I think that the 2nd list is WAY better. In List 1 you try and go all "Ooooh! I've got Nob Bikerz!!! Autowin!" Everybody and their Grandma has a strategy to beat that kind of army list because it's been used so much! Also, your lack of models/scoring units is scary. Nob Bikerz aren't invincible, and btw you have a whopping 14

. You have 2 scoring units. Not enough. Even other Biker lists have more than 2! Sure you kill 1 unit per turn per unit of bikers, but you will be bogged down because your enemy will just feed you 1 unit of expendable troops per turn. In any objective game, you're done. In any KP game you might be okay, just so long as your opponent doesn't shoot the crap out of your bikers... oh, wait, you only have biker nobz! List 2 should just get some AT and it'll be good.

-A.

**JD21290**

if you want a viable nob biker list with some speed:

HQ

wazdakka - 180

warboss; bike, klaw, bosspole, squig - 140

Troop:

6 nobs: 448

1: Cybork, bike, big choppa, rokkit kombi - 60
2: Cybork, bike, big choppa, skorcha kombi - 60
3: Cybork, bike, klaw, waaagh banner - 95
4: Cybork, bike, klaw, ammo runt - 78
5: Cybork, bike, klaw - 75
6: Cybork, painboy, bike - 80

5 warbikerz; nob, klaw, bosspole - 165

5 warbikerz; nob, klaw, bosspole - 165

5 warbikerz; nob, klaw, bosspole - 165

4 warbikerz; nob, klaw, bosspole - 140

4 warbikerz - 100

1,503 points.

sorry if math is a tad wrong, its late ish.

6 scoring units in the army, all highly mobile.
throw the klaw boss with the basic 4 bikerz to give them a klaw and bosspole.
thats alot of mobile klawz for anti-tank, the gunz should be more than enough to mow down infantry.

31 models aswell

**Gwar!**

Um, Warbikers are FA?

**Xfar**

Wazdakka allows Warbikers to be taken as Troop Choice... I believe...

**Gwar!**

That he does. That'll teach me to try and read a codex at 3am >.<