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people on here hate chaos dreads but I like them but I would give them combat weapons because then you probably wont get smashed if you roll a fire frenzy if I liked the models also if you wont to use the havocs box then it autocannon missile launcher heavy bolter ithink and something else I mean I'm goin to buy some plasma guns off ebay and make a plasma havoc squad but thats me and I'm in england so america might have better kits or something