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Okay Dakka, I've been toying with the idea of making a list for Rhyas since I started playing Hordes. Her feat, abilities, and power make her a tough warlock. Plus her fluff and play style go hand-in-hand with how I want to play, aggressively. I know I want a mostly melee style list to play with her to make the most use of her feat. Dash gives an extra 1" to warrior models and ignore free-strikes, so the list should become pretty decent with speed. I know she's only fury 5, so I dont want to bring a Carnivean or Angelius unless we can all agree there is no way the list can function without them.

I want to try and make use of the Warmongers also. Heavy infantry and their new solo makes them viable to me now, plus I've always loved the models.

So Dakka, with this in mind, please help me come up with a good list for Rhyas

I know the base of this army would be:

Rhyas
War Chief
War Chief
Warmongers
Nephilim Soldier

I'm not sure how exactly to fill it out, though.

Not that I did research into this recently or anything...

That's pretty good. I was thinking about the Seraph with her also. When she rolls a crit, she gives all models within her CMD get another die on attack rolls, this would bump the Seraph's chance of a crit adding 4D6 for damage on a charge. It's animus would also help out alot with the War Chief and Rhyas, giving them 2" of a threat range.

The Nephilim is crazy with Rhyas. I'm not sure though if you can combine his animus with her feat though, since she could move 3" and she ignores free strikes anyway.

So this is what I have in mind so far.

Legion of Everblight (402/500pts)

Rhyas, Sigil of Everblight
Seraph
Nephilim Soldier
Shredder
Shredder
Warmongers (3).. Should I make this a full unit?
Warmonger War Chief
Warmonger War Chief

Anyway else have anything to add? Should I add another Shredder? Comments?
Rhyas, Sigil of Everblight

That looks good. I would go with the full unit of warmongers and throw in one harrier(you auto hit and can still roll the dice to see if you crit) and don't forget the gobbers.

Raptors! So good on the feat turn with large bases, cavalry formation, light cav move afterward, and hitting like a ton of bricks during.

I like bringing a carnivean to benefit from the rapport mostly also.

Massacre and blooded do combine. Goes like: charge attack, blooded placement in base contact, massacre move if target destroyed by charge attack, massacre attack, 2nd swing from swordmaster, 3rd swing from blooded, buy attacks.

Common misconception on autohit, you do not autohit anymore if you roll dice:
QUOTE (Remix, p. 51)
Attacks that Hit or Miss Automatically
Some special rules cause attacks to hit automatically or miss automatically. If a special rule will cause an attack to hit automatically, you do not have to make an attack roll. If you do make a roll (for example, because you want to try for a critical hit), the attack will no longer hit automatically. If the attack roll fails, the attack misses.

I would love to drop a full unit of Raptors in the mix!... I do have a problem with the large base though, if I wanted to jump behind someone, they would have to be 3" apart.. That makes it a little harder if it's a full unit I'm trying to cut though.

The full unit of Warmongers are going to be nasty. Rhyas is MAT7 with Crit doubling ARM damage, I dont think I would ever want the auto-hit, maybe just boost to hit on the first roll since it would be 4D6 with a chance to double damage.

So I'm looking at this so far.

(442/500)
Rhyas, Sigil of Everblight
Seraph
Nephilim Soldier
Shredder
Shredder
Warmongers (5)
Warmonger War Chief
Warmonger War Chief

What should I take to fill in the last 58pts? Maybe a min size unit of Swordsmen?

How about 1 less warmonger, add 2 strider deathstalker solos and 1 shepherd. 500 even. The strider solos don't benefit from Rhyas much at all, but she certainly benefits from them. All melee sounds great until you get mired in a temporal barrier/inhospitable ground and shot to pieces. Deathstalkers can keep your opponent honest - for a turn at least.

I find the shepherd almost necessary with 5 focus legion casters - our stuff is just too fast. Either Rhyas leaves everyone behind when she charges and can't force them to charge/keep-up, or they leave her behind on the charge and can't be forced for boosting hit or extra attacks. The shepherd alleviates this and will let you play looser with fury.

What I'm really excited about is Typhon with Rhyas. 4 possible throws (3 base, 1 feat, 4 fury) per turn, with the option to reposition on top of the thrown model wherever it lands. Talk about a feat changing the flow of the game.

Ditch 1 shredder and 2 warmongers and run 5 raptors. Just keep in mind that warmongers scare raptors, but considering how fast the raptors are, its really not a big deal.

I cant take Raptors for Rhyas's feat, they are on large bases and wont be able to be placed behind models.

I guess more of less the idea is to rush through anything in front of my units when Rhyas pops her feat.

I dont think it's a good idea for a Legion warlock to only have 2 lights and 1 lesser even if she only has fury 5. Only exception to any fraction of Hordes would be Trollbloods, and most of the time it's a Heavy and a Light since their melee casters are fury 5. I'm thinking about 3 Shredders just to make sure I have their animus. DEF17 on Rhyas with a strike back on a miss can ruin a lock kill, and possibly 21 on a turn she kills a model with a crit. I'm not keen on the idea of just 3 Warmongers.. In games I've play tested them, at least 2 would always die. That means the only one would make it into melee, so the 2nd War Chief would become an expensive solo. Although he's probably worth it.

@ Moz, The Deathstalkers are something to think about... The Shepherd is someone I over-looked, but you are right about taking her.

Silverwarrior88 wrote:I cant take Raptors for Rhyas's feat, they are on large bases and wont be able to be placed behind models.

I can. Or I shoud say, I have, maybe not directly behind, but definately move to the side, wacka wacka, move, wack, stretch coherency... end, activate next raptor's attack step.

You'll find the unit coherency rules to be a real issue with warmongers trying to jump behind a unit. Raptors will have a much easier time with the 5" cavalry formation. Plus, when they are done they can get out of your way with the light cav move, and probably tie something else up.

I have enough Cavalry for now. I'm going with Warmongers + War Chiefs.

With a 2" reach, the Warmongers can kill things behind other models as long has they can see them, and then move base-to-base and use the same tactic.

In theory, they should be able to hack their way behind models better the the calvery since they are on med-base and have reach.

mongers + raptors + warcheifs.... 3 x the fun