| Author |
Message |
 |
|
|
 |
|
Advert
|
Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
- No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
- Times and dates in your local timezone.
- Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
- Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
- Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now. |
|
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/31 14:43:09
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
title says everything , can this be done ?
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/31 14:44:29
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
|
Not in one turn. You can only Embark and Disembark in the Movement Phase, and even so, a Unit may Not Embark and Disembark in the same turn (either from the same transport or different transports) What you can do, Is disembark, fire, and then reimbark in your next movement phase. See Pages 66 and 67 of the BRB for how it works.
|
|
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/03/31 14:48:53
Got 40k Rules Question? Send an e-mail to Gwar! for your Confidential Rules Queries.
Please do not PM me unless really necessary. I much prefer e-mail.
Need it Answered RIGHT NOW!? Ring me on Skype: "gwar.the.trolle"
Looking to play some Vassal? Ring me for a game!
Download The Unofficial FAQs by Gwar! here! (Dark Eldar Draft FAQ v1.0 released 04/Nov/2010! Download it before the Pandas eat it all!) |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/31 14:46:59
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Heroic Senior Officer
|
Since you can only voluntarily embark/disembark during the movement phase, and since there is no movement phase after the shooting phase, I'd say it's pretty much a no way in h*** proposition.
|
Don "MONDO"
www.ironfistleague.com
Northern VA/Southern MD |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/31 14:47:00
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
awww what a pity , could have done so cool things with a serpent and a squad of avengers.
oh well... thanks for posting
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/03/31 14:47:50
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/31 14:49:30
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
|
You can still do it, all it means is the avengers are vulnerable for a turn
|
Got 40k Rules Question? Send an e-mail to Gwar! for your Confidential Rules Queries.
Please do not PM me unless really necessary. I much prefer e-mail.
Need it Answered RIGHT NOW!? Ring me on Skype: "gwar.the.trolle"
Looking to play some Vassal? Ring me for a game!
Download The Unofficial FAQs by Gwar! here! (Dark Eldar Draft FAQ v1.0 released 04/Nov/2010! Download it before the Pandas eat it all!) |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/31 15:04:49
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Waaagh! Warbiker
|
Gwar! wrote:You can still do it, all it means is the avengers are vulnerable for a turn
Well, it means that and that you can only do it half as many times. Since the get out, shoot, get in thing takes two turns, it effectively cuts the number of times you'll be shooting people with the guys inside the transport to half as many as you would with guys without transport.
Depending on the game, that half-as-many route equates to much more since the guys aren't getting shot up the whole game, remain mobile, and generally just keep themselves out of bad situations, so there is more of the group firing due to less casualties.
I've seen the difference between mechanized Tau and transportless fire warriors hanging around in cover. The difference is significantly in favor of those that can pick their fights and remain mobile.
|
Goffs |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/31 21:30:22
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Angered Reaver Arena Champion
|
Take bladestorm then. Since you can only shoot 1/2 turns, that works perfectly! Almost by design...
|
Sangfroid Marines 5000 pts
Wych Cult 2000
Tau 2000 |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 06:16:24
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
|
According to the 2nd INAT FAQ in the jet pack infantry section, if you do not declare an assault and chose to make an assault movement, you can re-embark after shooting. But thats jet pack unit specific.
|
A moment of laxity spawns a lifetime of heresy |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 08:41:02
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Devastating Dark Reaper
|
This would be a sweet tactic for Warp Spiders.
I'm not saying this is legal,but I'm going to look into it.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/04/01 08:41:28
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 08:52:54
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
|
What a pity that jump infantry (which includes jet pack infantry) are not allowed to embark in transports at any time. See p.66 of the main rulebook.
Unless there's something in the Tau/Eldar codexes that specifically allows them to enter a transport vehicle, they cannot do it.
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 08:54:02
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Confessor Of Sins
|
Jump Infantry aren't normally allowed to enter transports so it doesn't matter much.
edit: fastest draw in the West beats me!
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/04/01 08:54:37
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 08:55:57
Subject: can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
|
Erm... AMAZING for Spiders. They're jetpack infantry right?
OOhhh, my guys are gonna HATE this one! :-D
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 09:09:59
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Devastating Dark Reaper
|
Ummm... Well maybe they could jump on top of the transport and go for the ride.
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 13:56:20
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
|
DiscipleofCaliban wrote:According to the 2nd INAT FAQ in the jet pack infantry section, if you do not declare an assault and chose to make an assault movement, you can re-embark after shooting. But thats jet pack unit specific.
Its a shame that the INAT FAQ means utterly nothing and that by the Rules you cannot embark on a transport in the Assault phase (nor can Jump Infantry Actually embark on a transport)
|
Got 40k Rules Question? Send an e-mail to Gwar! for your Confidential Rules Queries.
Please do not PM me unless really necessary. I much prefer e-mail.
Need it Answered RIGHT NOW!? Ring me on Skype: "gwar.the.trolle"
Looking to play some Vassal? Ring me for a game!
Download The Unofficial FAQs by Gwar! here! (Dark Eldar Draft FAQ v1.0 released 04/Nov/2010! Download it before the Pandas eat it all!) |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 16:30:09
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
[ADMIN]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
|
Gwar! wrote:DiscipleofCaliban wrote:According to the 2nd INAT FAQ in the jet pack infantry section, if you do not declare an assault and chose to make an assault movement, you can re-embark after shooting. But thats jet pack unit specific.
Its a shame that the INAT FAQ means utterly nothing and that by the Rules you cannot embark on a transport in the Assault phase (nor can Jump Infantry Actually embark on a transport)
Hey, it means something if you're playing in an event that is using it.
But I digress, the INAT FAQ says no such thing. It says that Jetpack infantry that disembarks can still make a run movement, not that you can embark again after running.
This ruling applies to only one unit, that being Drones as no other jetpack units are allowed to be embarked on a vehicle in the first place. In the future, I'll move that question into the Tau section and mention drones specifically to make sure there is no confusion.
|
|
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/04/01 16:30:40
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/01 22:21:45
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Regular Dakkanaut
|
Yea it is a bummer that you cant do it in one turn.
But what I do with my tau is put them in the fastest transport that you can give them as many assault weapons as possible. i throw them in front of enemy transports blow them up with anti tank fire then blow them away with infantry seems to work well only have played one game with the tau but i did slaughter dark Eldar.
|
Sleep now in my Bolter Fire. |
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/02 00:14:30
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
|
No embarkation takes place during movement. Shooting phase occurs after movement.
|
500 points
2nd 40k Army
3rd 40k Army
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/02 02:16:55
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
[MOD]
Making Stuff
|
hardrockfreak1337 wrote:No embarkation takes place during movement.
It doesn't? Why not?
|
|
|
|
 |
 |
![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/04/02 02:19:01
Subject: Re:can you disembark , shoot and re-embark ?
|
 |
Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
|
insaniak wrote:hardrockfreak1337 wrote:No embarkation takes place during movement.
It doesn't? Why not?
Ohhh burned by a comma!
I believe the sentence should read "No, embarkation takes place during movement."
Damn Ozzies.
|
Got 40k Rules Question? Send an e-mail to Gwar! for your Confidential Rules Queries.
Please do not PM me unless really necessary. I much prefer e-mail.
Need it Answered RIGHT NOW!? Ring me on Skype: "gwar.the.trolle"
Looking to play some Vassal? Ring me for a game!
Download The Unofficial FAQs by Gwar! here! (Dark Eldar Draft FAQ v1.0 released 04/Nov/2010! Download it before the Pandas eat it all!) |
|
|
 |
 |
|
|