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Well, with Maelstrom's easter weekend %15 sale, I decided to order some elves. My order so far only has 5 dragon princes, 10 white lions including command, a box of 16 archers, and a repeater. So it's a bit too late to go back on that stuff. I've also picked up 2 metal archers and a sorceress from a different model range while I was at NATCON. Here's a list I am thinking about going for, and it is a bit unusual - please give me some feedback and especially thoughts on how this might rate in terms of army composition:

- lvl2 Mage
- Ring of Fury
- Silver Wand

- lvl2 Mage
- Seerstaff
- Power Stone

- Noble
- Lance, dragon armour, shield, Barded Steed
- Radiant Gem of Hoeth

- Noble
- Lance, dragon armour, shield, Barded Steed
- BSB
- Battle Banner

- 5x Dragon Princes
- Full Command
- Gem of Courage (drakemaster item)
- Banner of Elyrion

- 5x Dragon Princes
- Full Command
- War Banner
- Helm of Fortune (drakemaster item)

- 15x White Lions
- Full Command
- Banner of Sorcery
- The Skeinsliver

- 1x Tiranoc Chariot

- 10 Archers

- 10 Archers

- 3x RBT

- Eagle

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So, no prince, no dragons, no archmage, no book of hoeth, in fact no lord level character at all. It does however have the battle banner and banner of sorcery, so those are some staple high elf choices. 5 Dispel dice, no scroll. Maybe swap the power stone for a scroll... but with elf +1 dispel attempt I might be able to get away with no scroll. Only having level 2's means 3 dice max to cast, and having no power stone would mean that I still couldn't get away with using the seerstaff to pick a really nasty big magic spell to attempt whenever it would be most effective.

The list has very few deployments so the strategy is to try and get +2 to the first turn roll with that and the skeinsliver. Then it's a matter of hitting home with my tooled up 2x hammer units. Drakemaster champ has the helm so that if necessary he can accept a suicidal challenge and block much of the overkill thanks to his re-rollable 1+ save.

Radient gem of hoeth is an unusual one, but I love his options. Shield of saphery on his dragon princes, portent of phar, even the first spell on the lore of metal to snipe a chaos knights unit you are planning on going toe to toe with. Or first spell on light when you are standing off against daemons and undead. But most importantly, his dispel dice is handy when i'm not running an archmage.

Would people have fun playing this list? Would I get hammered if I was using it? Any ideas on spending/shuffling the remaining 24 points?

This is actually pretty close to what I normally run at 2k - plus/minus a few odds and ends.

I would definitely take a Dispel Scroll. I usually have 4DD in my lists and find that not quite enough to ward off enemy magic without a couple of crucial dispel scrolls. I can't imagine 5DD would be that much better at it.

Personally, if I were to choose a unit to hold a Banner of Sorcery for me, I'd go with Phoenix Guard, but as you said, the White Lions are pretty much set. They're not bad for it, per se, but they're certainly not as resilient to strong shooting/magic as their silent counter-parts. They _do_ cause more damage, though, so that's something.

Dragon Princes - personally, I think you've got too many points in them. They're great on the charge, but can get minced up if they fail to break the unit they charge. Which unit would the respective nobles go into? I usually run my Battle Banner BSB with a naked 5 elf unit of DPs, with my General noble in full commanded unit. If you're running the RGoH on your noble, consider taking Lore of Beasts and going with Bear's Anger - if you can hold that out until after your opponent has used up all of his DD, you can give them a really nasty surprise in combat. If you dropped most of the command off one (or both) the units, you could potentially get another Chariot with the freed up points and the 24 spare points you've got.

I'm kind of curious to see how this list would run - it's just ever so slightly different from the way that I run my Caledor list that it seems like it would run very differently. It has potential for a decent Magic Phase and CC Phase. If you want a stronger magic phase, though, I would really recommend having an archmage around to take better advantage of the Banner of Sorcery.

Sadly, Bears anger only works if you are on foot. On a different forum i've had a few other suggestions for changes to this list, so it looks a little different now, but the main elements stay.

The nobles each go into whichever unit needs them the most based on how my opponent has deployed.

Ah yes, forgot about that caveat of Bear's Anger.

I like your mages setup. I like one dispell scroll to save dice for later. Nobles are okay, maybe some people would do it differently but what the heck.

Dragon princes with full commands, especially two of them is a lot of points. Once would be okay but spend some of those points elsewhere.

You have a lot of banners. Maybe you should look at that, I dont include a BSB or warbanner and I win more than I lose. That is more of a personnel choice than anything else.

High Elf lists with out a prince can be very effective. I have had a lot of success running a Korhil on Lion Chariot list that is alot similar to this. I love to use the Battle Banner, though others think it is alot of points. I just love the look on my opponents face after he tells me that I need double 1's to stay because "I cause fear and out number you and you lost by one." then I say "no," roll a six "you lose by 5" priceless.

Seems to me like those Dragon Princes could be a lot cheaper (dropping the magic items, and possibly the champions.) Also, one chariot doesn't strike me as terribly effective. I would either trim the fat off those DP's and get another chariot, or drop the chariot as well and look into getting something along the lines of MSU Swordmasters, and/or upgrading a mage or a noble to a Lord.

@IsThisIt1015: I think the OPs idea was to avoid Lord choices.

Actually, a single Chariot isn't too bad. Granted, it can't take on large blocks of infantry by itself and also suffers from the "if it doesn't break from the charge, it's dead" issue that lots of the HE units have, lone chariots can do a number to small infantry units. Granted, it's still best to have them coordinate attacks with something else.

You should be fine with your nobles. I'm not too keen on putting standards on any cavalry unit, it's small unit size tends to cause them to flee and if you flee, your opponent gets a free 100 vp's. of course, feel perfectly free to ignore that comment. I've seen it work but i'm too cautious for my own good.

As for magic defense, you could always go with drain magic. It's quite underestimated in the games I play, IMHO.

Good hunting!