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1. Do they follow the rules for "No Retreat"? Become Fearless and fight combat as normal?
2. Remove them from the board?
3. Fight combat as normal, except even if they lose combat they are fearless because of "No Retreat" rules. (normally it requires marines to lose combat, roll morale and if they get caught in the sweeping advance they then follow the "No Retreat" rules.)

if they fail their morale. they fall back 2d6 towards their table edge. then the attacker rolls 2d6. if the attacker rolls higher then they continue combat instead of being caught in a sweeping advance. if the attacker rolls lower the spaz mariens successfully disengage from combat.

Page 46 deals with units that are falling back ("broken") being assaulted. They must immediately test to regroup. They get to ignore all the restrictions for regrouping (like enemy within 6"). If they pass the get assaulted like normal because they have regrouped, though they don't get the 3" regroup move. If they fail they are destroyed.

For space marines they get to automatically pass the regroup test so they will get assaulted again.

The Angry Commissar wrote:if they fail their morale. they fall back 2d6 towards their table edge. then the attacker rolls 2d6. if the attacker rolls higher then they continue combat instead of being caught in a sweeping advance. if the attacker rolls lower the spaz mariens successfully disengage from combat.

wrong, they each roll 1 D6. if they attacker is higher, then the catch, and they continue combat with no retreat rule. if the SM roll is higher, then they fall back 2D6

Not if they're marines. Marines caught by a sweeping advance aren't destroyed but instead are whacked with just a handful of easily saved extra wounds from the "No Retreat!" effect.

Since sweeping advance doesn't actually move any models but checks initiatives first, they'll take the wounds, its not like you're 'charging' them again.

If they were broken as in 'out of coherency' and falling back, I'd imagine "no retreat" comes into effect again; they'll be assaulted as normal first though.

I don't think any of the previous answers have been very clear.

If a unit assaults a squad of Space Marines that is currently falling back:

1. The rules state a falling back unit takes a test to regroup if assaulted.
2. A Space Marine squad automatically passes tests to regroup.
3. The squad is considered regrouped, and assault moves etc commence, and assault plays out as normal.

If a squad of Space Marines loses combat, fails a morale check (or decides to fail a morale check), and is caught in a sweeping advance:

1. They are not destroyed.
2. They take wounds following the No Retreat! rules as described in the rulebook.

Essentially, I think people are mixing two different sets of rules in their answers; however, this is spelled out fairly explicitly in the codex and main rulebook and really isn't a grey area.

This would be dumb to do anyway. If you are within 6" to assault them you are close enough to deny their Regrouping so they would keep running. Why give them a chance to turn around? Just escort them off-table.

Its totally not dumb, if you have a reason to do this. I didn't want my dreadnought shot up by 2 multi-melta equipped bikes in the area. Safety of combat my friend! Anyhow, apparently we did the combat correct, not for the correct reasons, and yes my dreadnaught did survive the battle :-)

Nurgleboy77 wrote:This would be dumb to do anyway. If you are within 6" to assault them you are close enough to deny their Regrouping so they would keep running. Why give them a chance to turn around? Just escort them off-table.

Charging them makes them rally. At which point they may win the combat.

If you just chase them (staying within 6") then they don't get to rally and you can chase them off the board. Unless the board edge is a long way away or you have forces suitable to crush them in combat then chasing them off is a nice safe option.

Plus, marine players HATE IT when their guys run away.

gainesdp wrote:I don't think any of the previous answers have been very clear.

Lets be honest, the first four answers in this thread are random made up gibberish. Some people need to actually try reading the rules before attempting to tell other people what they are.

If a unit assaults a squad of Space Marines that is currently falling back:

1. The rules state a falling back unit takes a test to regroup if assaulted.
2. A Space Marine squad automatically passes tests to regroup.
3. The squad is considered regrouped, and assault moves etc commence, and assault plays out as normal.

This is the correct answer, theres no other possible way to play it if you read the rules for ATSKNF and for assaulting broken units.

Hymirl wrote:
Lets be honest, the first four answers in this thread are random made up gibberish. Some people need to actually try reading the rules before attempting to tell other people what they are.

Hardly. I cited the page where the relevant rules are and gave the correct answer. Not exactly made up gibberish, tough guy.

Arschbombe wrote:

Hymirl wrote:
Lets be honest, the first four answers in this thread are random made up gibberish. Some people need to actually try reading the rules before attempting to tell other people what they are.

Hardly. I cited the page where the relevant rules are and gave the correct answer. Not exactly made up gibberish, tough guy.

As Divide by Zero Inducing this admission is, I actually Agree with Hymirl.

Furthermo...

Arschbombe wrote:Hardly. I cited the page where the relevant rules are and gave the correct answer. Not exactly made up gibberish, tough guy.

Calm down dear, its only the internet.

You safely may exclude yourself from my slamming of random rules answers on the basis that you did give a right answer and included a page reference as you said but if I had posted, "OMG the first post, skip one and the two following posts....etc" it wouldn't have had any ring to it.

Question answered. Thread starting to flame.