Monstrous Creatures conferring cover saves?

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**Tyrolean**

It's been nagging in my mind since my last game. Is a monstrous critter such as an Avatar able to give a cover save to an infantry unit behind it? The cover saves ruling is a bit vague and in the MC section the Book only tells you that the needs 50% obscurement to receive a save, nothing on giving them.

thanks

**RiTides**

Well, it'd have to be blocking / obscuring LOS to half of the unit!

If so, yes

If not, no!

**Gwar!**

RiTides Nids wrote:Well, it'd have to be blocking / obscuring LOS to half of the unit!

If so, yes

If not, no!

What he said

**Tyrolean**

Ok cool. Just a question though, Does a MC count as a stand-alone unit? If so would it give a cover save based on the "firing through a unit" cover save rule? MC's just seem to be such an odd-ball thing where some rules apply and others don't and GW doesn't feel the need to remove all the grey

**Tyrolean**

So basically they're treated as walkers for giving and receiving cover? I suppose that sounds right

**nosferatu1001**

Well, theyre treated as any other model on the table really; you determine if it blocks LOS and that is all that counts.

**Sliggoth**

If somehow the MC is part of a unit then we would have a cover save situation. The only case that I can think of in current rules would be the hive tyrant with a unit of his bodyguards, since the tyrant can no longer be picked out as a single target then normal unit cover save rules would have to apply.

Also, a unit entirely of MC or walkers should again give cover saves just like any other unit. The only such unit that I can think of atm is the eldar war walkers but if they add a unit of MC to apoc then cover saves should be given as well.

Sliggoth