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I need to clarify something regarding guess weapons...

It is stated in the rulebook that weapons with G in the profile can shoot within its minimum and maximum ranges... like the whirlwind for example.... 12-48", what if the template scatters beyond the min-max range? will the shot be invalid? or be resolved as normal?

Also according to the IG dex, basilisks are now 36-240" that means can it still direct fire targets inside the minimum 36"? or not? (same goes for the whirlwind)
I was thinking that they could not direct fire and any unit within 36" can not be shot at by the basilisk..(sucks tho) Thanks!

juppy wrote:I need to clarify something regarding guess weapons...

It is stated in the rulebook that weapons with G in the profile can shoot within its minimum and maximum ranges... like the whirlwind for example.... 12-48", what if the template scatters beyond the min-max range? will the shot be invalid? or be resolved as normal?

Also according to the IG dex, basilisks are now 36-240" that means can it still direct fire targets inside the minimum 36"? or not? (same goes for the whirlwind)
I was thinking that they could not direct fire and any unit within 36" can not be shot at by the basilisk..(sucks tho) Thanks!

The blast template for barrage weapons (formerly denoted by G) must be placed within its range, and it can then scatter outside. You don't measure first, just place the blast marker and then see if its in range. If it is in range, continue normally (including scatter). If not then it is removed and the game goes on.

So no, a Basilisk that targets a model within the 36" will lose its shot for the turn.

man that must have suck having a big gun and you can't shoot it with it coz uh the enemy is too close LOL

now the only way to avoid a basilisk to keep pounding you would be to go right up front....

Read the rules for barrage weapons in the rulebook. They are all allowed to fire directly with no minimum range penalty.

Except for the Collosus and Griffon that is.

Ghaz wrote:Except for the Collosus and Griffon that is.

Only because they have special rules that say you cant

And yes, if the template scatters outside the Min-Max, it is fine, it just cannot be placed there to start.

ah ok I just finished rereading them rules Thanks guys!

on another note regarding ordnance... can walkers fire them and fire other weapons? like say the defiler? The ordnance section states vehicles who fire ordnance weapons can't fire anything else (except for lumbering behemoth) but walkers have their own set of rules as well, according to walker rules they can move and fire everything as if they where stationary.... any help would be most appreciated thanks

juppy wrote:ah ok I just finished rereading them rules Thanks guys!

on another note regarding ordnance... can walkers fire them and fire other weapons? like say the defiler? The ordnance section states vehicles who fire ordnance weapons can't fire anything else (except for lumbering behemoth) but walkers have their own set of rules as well, according to walker rules they can move and fire everything as if they where stationary.... any help would be most appreciated thanks

No, the rules for Ordnance are clear. You fire Ordnance, you cannot fire anything else, including defensive weapons. This still applies to walkers.

The rules for firing ordnance barrage directly are pretty tricky to find, as they're not in the weapons section of the rulebook, but in the vehicles section of the rule book. Page 58 IIRC.

Walkers state that they always count as stationary for the purposes of firing weapons. That bonus does not interact with the rules for ordnance which state that you simply cannot fire any other weapons on the turn that a vehicle fires and ordnance weapon, Guard tanks with ordnance turrets and Lumbering Behemoth being a notable exception, of course.

ok thanks a bunch!

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