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In the current codex, Pathfinders have to take a Devilfish as a dedicated transport. Thats fine, but I much prefer to deploy my fire warriors in it. Do I HAVE to deploy the devilfish with the pathfinders, or can I deploy it with the fire warriors instead?

You can deploy it next to the firewarriors and have them get in on turn 1, but you can't deploy the firewarriors in it, nor can you have them come on from reserves in it.

well could i say, deploy the devilfish near my FWs, and have my pathfinders somewhere else, or does the devilfish have to be with the pathfinders? if so, how close?

no, unless the pathfinders are starting in the devilfish they are two entirely seperate units that have no relation to eachother.

you could even have the devilfish start on the board while the pathfinders are outflanking, the only restriction is that units other than the pathfinders cannot enter play or start the game deployed in the devilfish.

Aaah ok. thanks. that really helps.

Drunkspleen wrote:no, unless the pathfinders are starting in the devilfish they are two entirely seperate units that have no relation to eachother.

you could even have the devilfish start on the board while the pathfinders are outflanking, the only restriction is that units other than the pathfinders cannot enter play or start the game deployed in the devilfish.

I do not think that this is true, as the Devilfish and Pathfinders are deployed as if a single unit...whether the Pathfinders are in it or not are irrelevant. If you decide to Outflank, the Devilfish must Outflank with the Pathfinders.

Che-Vito wrote:

Drunkspleen wrote:no, unless the pathfinders are starting in the devilfish they are two entirely seperate units that have no relation to eachother.

you could even have the devilfish start on the board while the pathfinders are outflanking, the only restriction is that units other than the pathfinders cannot enter play or start the game deployed in the devilfish.

I do not think that this is true, as the Devilfish and Pathfinders are deployed as if a single unit...whether the Pathfinders are in it or not are irrelevant. If you decide to Outflank, the Devilfish must Outflank with the Pathfinders.

This is incorrect. The Pathfinders can outflank without the 'fish, the only caveat is that if they DO outflank with the Devilfish they must move onto the board embarked on it.

Waaaaaaagh! wrote:

Che-Vito wrote:

Drunkspleen wrote:no, unless the pathfinders are starting in the devilfish they are two entirely seperate units that have no relation to eachother.

you could even have the devilfish start on the board while the pathfinders are outflanking, the only restriction is that units other than the pathfinders cannot enter play or start the game deployed in the devilfish.

I do not think that this is true, as the Devilfish and Pathfinders are deployed as if a single unit...whether the Pathfinders are in it or not are irrelevant. If you decide to Outflank, the Devilfish must Outflank with the Pathfinders.

This is incorrect. The Pathfinders can outflank without the 'fish, the only caveat is that if they DO outflank with the Devilfish they must move onto the board embarked on it.

Please quote where a dedicated transport can be deployed on a different turn, and via a different method then it's attached unit.

The part where you dont have to start the game embarked on a dedicated transport if you dont want to? Nowhere says you must come on embarked other than if you outflank with your transport. If you want you can have them separate in reserves, and you will roll for each one separately.

Che-Vito wrote:
Please quote where a dedicated transport can be deployed on a different turn, and via a different method then it's attached unit.

Yeah, you've got that backwards.

The basic rules allow any unit to be put into Reserves or not so you'd need to find something in the rules prohibiting a player from doing what Waaagh describes.


The outflanking rules just say:

"Note that if such units are picked from their army list together with a dedicated transport, they may outflank with their transport, but if they do so they must move onto the table embarked in it."


So a unit with the outflanking ability MAY outflank with their transport but you could just decide to outflank with the Pathfinders and just deploy the Devilfish normally or have it move onto the table normally from Reserves.

You just can't have the Devilfish outflank if the Pathfinders aren't riding in it when they arrive.