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My army list is attached in an excel if it does not work i will type it out

ummmm that list is all over the place. If you are going to spend the points for vulkan try and bring as much melta and flamers as possible.

most squads have flamers and i also have a multi melt for my drednought and also could change plasma gun on biker to multi melta

Vulkan_He'stan wrote:most squads have flamers and i also have a multi melt for my drednought

Not that I can see the list since i dont have excel on this comp, but if your going to bring vulkan you should LOAD UP on melta's and flamers. Multi melta and heavy flamer speeders, multi melta dreads, tactical squads with multi melta's/meltaguns/flamers/combi-melta's, sternguard with combi-melta's, etc. Melta's are your best bet for popping tanks these days and vulkan makes them better.

As for your sig, Tu'Shan is the chapter master and lord of the salamanders, not He'Stan :p

not sure why your bothering with Vulkan Imho. This list is barely at that a Sally list.

5/6 man squads are worthless. combine squad A and D then you can combat squad them.

Your tacs need transports. Squad B can only have 1 flamer, give your tacs the free MM.

Devestators are a mixed bag. 3 different weapons really dont work..they need a spacific role. I would dump them.

I dont get the bike squad... dump them and add more MM/HF speeders to your list. If your sold on bikes get MM assault bikes.

Termys should be cc termies with SS/TH's you can DS them or put them in a LR. If you want a chaplain put him with them.

Land speedrs. Need more and they all should be MM/HF type.

Captain... he doesnt need to be there. 3 HQs are too many pts.

Dread should be the standard dread with MM and DCCW. Also needs a Drop Pod

Vanguard need to be dropped and use pts to give your tacs Rhinos or DPs and your Dread a DP. CC termies do better for the points then Vanguard.


Over all not a good list.. you have zero mobility and thats loss in 5th edition. Vulkan really has very little use in this list. You would be better off with just the Capt.

ok thx for the advise just changing the LS to HF and MM

This is hilarious for all sorts of reasons.

You can't take 3 HQs. Only 2.

Im loosing the captain

Try this::

HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan (1#, 190 Pts)

Elite: Terminator Assault Squad (5#, 200 Pts)
4 Terminator Assault Squad @ 200 Pts
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield (x4)
1 Terminator Armour @ [0] Pts
1 Sergeant @ [40] Pts
Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield (x1)
1 Terminator Armour @ [0] Pts

Elite: Dreadnought (2#, 170 Pts)
1 Dreadnought @ 170 Pts
Dreadnought CCW; Multi-Melta; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Heavy Flamer; Drop Pod
1 Drop Pod @ [55] Pts
Deathwind Missile Launcher

Troops: Tactical Squad (11#, 260 Pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 260 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Multi-Melta; Drop Pod
1 Sergeant @ [58] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Fist; Combi-Meltagun
1 Drop Pod @ [55] Pts
Deathwind Missile Launcher

Troops: Tactical Squad (10#, 205 Pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 205 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Multi-Melta
1 Sergeant @ [58] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Fist; Combi-Meltagun

Troops: Tactical Squad (10#, 195 Pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 195 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Flamer; Multi-Melta
1 Sergeant @ [48] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Weapon; Combi-Meltagun

Troops: Tactical Squad (10#, 200 Pts)
9 Tactical Squad @ 200 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x9); Bolter (x7) Flamer; Multi-Melta
1 Sergeant @ [53] Pts
Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Melta Bombs; Power Weapon; Combi-Meltagun

Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron (1#, 70 Pts)
1 Land Speeder Squadron @ 70 Pts
Multi-Melta (x1); Heavy Flamer (x1)

Heavy Support: Land Raider Redeemer (1#, 250 Pts)

Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad (6#, 160 Pts)
4 Sternguard Veteran Squad @ 160 Pts
Bolt Pistol (x4); Bolter (x4); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition; Drop Pod
1 Sergeant @ [25] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Bolter; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Special Issue Ammunition
1 Drop Pod @ [35] Pts
Storm Bolter

HQ: Space Marine Librarian (1#, 100 Pts)
1 Space Marine Librarian @ 100 Pts
...in Power Armour; Force Dome; The Gate of Infinity
1 ...in Power Armour @ [100] Pts
Bolt Pistol; Force Weapon; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Psychic Hood
1 Psychic Hood @ [0] Pts

sound pretty good mabey add a tech marine repair landspeeder Land raider and drednought and swap sternguard for vanguard

Heres the new version

That landspeeder is priced incorrectly. It costs 70 points for Heavy Flamer + Multi-Melta. Either 10+10+50 or 20+0+50, same difference in the end. These are REALLY good, get more of them.

Vanguard vets are not all that great, and with only 6 models, will draw lots of AI fire and absolutely need a transport to make it to close combat, especially since you oversaturated them with expensive wargear.

Your Dev Squad need to be more focused, no reason to have that heavy bolter in there, replace it with a missile launcher.

The Dread needs a drop pod, and your tactical squads need transports.

Your tactical squads get free Multi-Meltas BTW. You might not have enough scoring units in this list - I run 3 full Tac Squads with rhinos in my 1750 list, and this is 400 points bigger.

For more Anti Infantry, get Predators with autocannons + Hvy Bolter Sponsons for 85 points each. They work wonders against hordes.



Too much HQ also.

You can only take 2 HQ choices. Your new list has 4. Keep Vulkan and the Chaplain and drop the Chapter Master and the Captain.

You also have 4 Elites choices while you can only have 3. Drop the Techmarine because they are really lousy at what they're supposed to be good at.

the chapter master is vulkan he'stan so i only got 3 + im getting rid of the captain today

Oh and Vulkan is NOT a chapter master ( & does not get an orbital strike), he is the forge father.

Vulkan's not the chapter master of the Sallies. If he was, he could take an Honor Guard and have an Auto-Miss Template.

The chapter master for the Sallies is named Tu'Shan.