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Ok idea for a custum Chaos Lord, seeing as theirs so few unique chars. Feel free to give some creative criticism or ideas
Shadowbrand the Dominator HQ points 150

S 6

WS 7

BS 5

T 5

W 4

I 7

Ld 10

Sv 3 +5 inv save

Shadowbrand has Power Armor, Wings and a Force weapon, his force weapon the Claymore "Hatred" counts as a force/power wep but has the Instant Death ablity. and a Doom siren

Special Rules
Unique Char/ Jump Infantry, Rending, mark of Slannesh Fearless


Shadowbrand is halfway on the verge of Daemonhood he has wings glowing bright blue eyes and a Possessed soul sucking sword that is ginormous. I simpily think Termy armor would be too unbalanced. He is a Champion of Slannesh and the second of command in my Traitor Chapter "The Revenants of Sin" anywho He has reflexs like Bruce Lee and can be in flight for quite some time allowing him to sneak up upon the enemy. or be right in the frontlines

Whatca think??

He needs a Strength characteristic to actually do anything....
Other than that with 4 wounds, a force weapon and WS 7 he may be a tad to strong in CC, maybe just give him a daemon sword ala codex, or a master crafted power sword.
Nice to see that hes in power armor too not termie armor. And needs to be more expensive with those stats

EDIT: missed rending, needs to be far more points

Thanks, had a feeling i forgot something, but i had the wanted him to be a CC beast his only two weps are the siren and the Blade, uhh is S 5 or 6 too much??

S6 could work, that would mean hitting MEQ's on 3's. wounding on 2's and no saves. You also forgot the Attacks . with S6 he cant have that many, else he would kill almost any infantry that attacked him.

Perhaps drop rending, the ability to drop a land raider in CC could be a tad much.
WS BS S T W I A Ld Sv
7 4(or 5) 4 5 4 7 4 10 3+/5++

Rules: Independent Character, Jump infantry, Infiltrate, MOS, Fearless
Wargear: "Hatred" Counts as MC (nemesis) force weapon (+2S), gains no additional attacks for extra CC weapon etc
Power Armor
Frag grenades
Wings
Doom Siren

I dropped the BS to keep with his CC theme, and not too sure about the force weapon it removes the ID ability, but allows rerolls for MC status. Just an idea though. He could just be S5 stock with the default force weapon

I like that idea. and yeah i used Abbadons Stats as a template, but i wanted the lack of ranged weps to represent him useing both hands for his blade the doom siren is built into his vox caster. I'm still abit new to the game but im mostly here for advice

I'm happy to see this, as special characters are my favored way to shake up battles. So, let's look at what we've got.

Fluffwise, Half-Daemon lord of Slaanesh. Good Reflexes, has a soul-sucking sword. Let's get as close to this as we can with basic rules, alright?

Daemon Prince 110
WS:7 BS:5 S:6 T:5 W:4 I:5(6) A:3 Ld:10 Sv:3+/5++ (++ is accepted shorthand for an invulnerable save.)
+wings 20 points
+mark of Slaanesh 5 points

Now, that's as close as we can get, straight up, from the book. You still need Rending, ID Force weapon (by the way, as you mention you're new, I feel the need to point out, that if your weapon is ID, then you don't need it to be Force. Force lets it become ID.) Infilitrate, and a doom siren. Let me make some suggestions.

Drop rending. You have a power weapon, and it's unlikely you're going to want more.

Then we "cheat", by lookin g at how much things cost your other units.

A Chaos lord of Slaanesh can take a Daemon weapon of Slaanesh for 40 points. Let's bump it up to 50, to maintain balance, since you're stronger. What does a Daemon Weapon of Slaanesh do? It's a power Weapon, that adds +d6 attacks, and always inflicts instant death. Give your daemon weapon the name Hatred, and we're good.

A Doom Siren costs a normal Noise Marine 15. But a Noise marine is much easier to kill. 25 points. (it's better to price high and work down via playtest.)

Infiltrate. I'm not sure exactly why you want this, since being Jump INfantry, you can Deep Strike. But I'll say 15 points
So, by this method, your character becomes

Shadowbrand the Dominator
225 points
WS:7 BS:5 S:6 T:5 W:4 I:5(6) A:4 Ld:10 Sv:3+

Unit/Type: Unique (Jump Infantry)

Wargear: Hatred, The Mouth of Madness, Mark of Slaanesh(bonus included in profile.)
(A Daemon Prince has a natural 3+. Model him with armor if you like)

Special Rules: Fearless, Infiltrate, 5+ Invulnerable Save, Independent Character

Hatred: This Claymore has a Daemon bound within it, which feasts on the souls of those struck by the blade. Hatred adds +d6 to Shadowbrand's attacks, roll before he attacks. On a 1, Hatred lashes out at Shadowbrand, preventing him from attacking, and inflicting a wound savable only with his invulnerable save. Any wound dealt by Hatred is Instant Death.

The Mouth of Madness:This weapon is a holdover from Shadowbrand's beginnings as a lowly Noise Marine. The Mouth of Madness acts as a Doom Siren.

This is the most "legitimate" way I could build your character. If you wanted to up his cost a bit, you could justify Hatred removing the standard daemon weapon weakness of rolling a one.

Thank you!!! i actually wrote that all down. i guess i sorta added a few unessasary pieces to him

I'd add twenty-five more points to AllWill falls version. This is a Create-a-character tax, as well as some extra points for the Daemon Weapon being monted on a unit with two more strength, one more toughness, and an extra wound.

hey, if he rolls a 1 on the roll for the amount of attacks and Hatred rebels against him does he suffer ID?

Might as well, it is a Daemon wep

IMHO pricing him at 250 is a bit much, I'd say from 220 to 230 max.

RustyKnight wrote:I'd add twenty-five more points to AllWill falls version. This is a Create-a-character tax, as well as some extra points for the Daemon Weapon being monted on a unit with two more strength, one more toughness, and an extra wound.

I see your point, but if you noticed, I mostly tried to shoot high with prices. To be the fairest possible, I'd say +10-20 more points. so, round about 240points.

On Hatred causing ID if it wounds Shadowbrand: You could certainly use that rule, if you wanted, and if you did, I'd say ignore the tax suggested by RustyKnight entirely.
240 point for a model with a 1/9 chance of killing himself every assault phase? On the pro side, any opponent who watched that happen would probably have their opinion of him drastically improved. (Like the first time my Chaos friend rolled 1 on Abaddon, which was while he assaulted a unit of Mega-nobs. "Oh, that guy's not so scary after all.")