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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/22 15:49:38
Subject: Why is bumping not allowed?
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Fate-Controlling Farseer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/22 15:52:33
Subject: Why is bumping not allowed?
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Madrak Ironhide
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djones520 wrote:http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/240920.page
I've seen no rules that prohibit it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/22 17:10:47
Subject: Re:Why is bumping not allowed?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Read the rules at: http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/forum_rules.jsp It breaks rule 1 somewhat, rule 2 definitely and rule 3 arguably. Under the 'In the Forums' section there is 'Spam posts... attempts at attention ... will be deleted on sight.' If you post a 'bump' message using the actual word 'bump' it will even give you a popup warning not to do it. Bumps add no value to readers, they push threads that nobody cares about back to the top, people who are email subscribed to threads get emails sent to them wasting their time, people who are normally subscribed to threads get their time wasted re-reading threads with no new info. If a thread is something that people really need to read then it will be made sticky by a mod. If it is something that is specific to an area then the relevant people will probably find it using the search engine. Bumping is spam and will lead to warnings, suspensions and banning as a result.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/22 17:45:07
Subject: Re:Why is bumping not allowed?
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legoburner wrote:Read the rules at: http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/forum_rules.jsp
It breaks rule 1 somewhat, rule 2 definitely and rule 3 arguably. Under the 'In the Forums' section there is 'Spam posts... attempts at attention ... will be deleted on sight.'
If you post a 'bump' message using the actual word 'bump' it will even give you a popup warning not to do it.
Bumps add no value to readers, they push threads that nobody cares about back to the top, people who are email subscribed to threads get emails sent to them wasting their time, people who are normally subscribed to threads get their time wasted re-reading threads with no new info.
If a thread is something that people really need to read then it will be made sticky by a mod. If it is something that is specific to an area then the relevant people will probably find it using the search engine. Bumping is spam and will lead to warnings, suspensions and banning as a result.
So like in the case of the thread in mention, you'd prefer someone just created a whole new thread in it's place?
It's not like everyone reads Dakka every day. And given the level of postin activity that occurs here, a thread that may catch someones eye 2 days after it was originally posted, may be buried on page 3 or 4 and lost to obscurity.
And I know your the admin and everything, but IMO your saying that it violates rules 1, 2, and 3 seem real off base. Bumping in no way takes the topic "Off Topic", it can only be regarded as impolite in the sense of people who email subscribe, and if someone is going to get upset about recieving messages like that, then they can just click that little button that unsubscribes them, and thirdly, bumping in that sense can't in anyway be viewed as spam. It's like your trying to say that creating a single thread instead of multiple is spamming.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/22 23:38:40
Subject: Re:Why is bumping not allowed?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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In the case of that thread, I would hope that people from iceland would search for 'iceland' in that forum to find other icelandic players. A new thread every couple of months would be acceptable, but since the member did not post in English we cant know the content and its relevance.
It is not like everybody reads Dakka every day, but threads that are interesting to everyone will float to the top until they are no longer relevant through virtue of genuine responses to them. If a thread is obscure enough to be buried, bumping it up will simply bury a thread that would have naturally been more interesting to other users. Everytime a thread gets a worthless bump, another thread gets pushed off a forum home page, and if that pushed thread was not bumped there then a genuinely interesting thread will be moved to the next page at the expense of a worthless post.
Bumping has no relevance and is indeed taking a post off topic. Those same people who check dakka infrequently will see a bunch of bumped threads which have authors who think their threads are important, but if they are not the type of user who clicks through multiple pages of results then they will lose out on more interesting content. It lowers the perception of quality for infrequent visitors and makes a thread or forum look like a wasteland of people waiting for replies and never getting them.
A new thread is preferable to bumping and this is generally regarded as the case in most forum admin circles that I'm aware of. (See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(Internet) ) Obviously a new thread every couple of days about the same topic is spamming, so it is a case of getting the right balance which obviously depends on the topic at hand and any real world deadlines associated with a topic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/23 01:03:24
Subject: Re:Why is bumping not allowed?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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djones520 wrote:
So like in the case of the thread in mention, you'd prefer someone just created a whole new thread in it's place?
It's not like everyone reads Dakka every day. And given the level of postin activity that occurs here, a thread that may catch someones eye 2 days after it was originally posted, may be buried on page 3 or 4 and lost to obscurity.
And I know your the admin and everything, but IMO your saying that it violates rules 1, 2, and 3 seem real off base. Bumping in no way takes the topic "Off Topic", it can only be regarded as impolite in the sense of people who email subscribe, and if someone is going to get upset about recieving messages like that, then they can just click that little button that unsubscribes them, and thirdly, bumping in that sense can't in anyway be viewed as spam. It's like your trying to say that creating a single thread instead of multiple is spamming.
To confirm what Lego is saying, bumping is a form of spam and cannot be tolerated. While you may think 'what does it hurt?' in response to your threads (or threads you are interested in), imagine that EVERYONE bumped their threads all the time. We would have the first page of each forum filled with threads that no one is interested in, filled with useless 'bump' replies.
If a forum topic has interest to other users it will generate discussion, otherwise it will fall off the front page and such is the nature of a forum. If your thread is properly titled and well written then in the future people will find it when searching for a that topic, but that's really all you can hope for.
Bumping your threads is generally not acceptable as is re-posting another thread on the same topic. The fact is, if people aren't interested in discussing that topic, they just aren't!
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