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I mean, why would you transport goods to places using boats when it would be far easier to do it by plane or train?

What advantage could armies gain from travelling by sea when they could just yomp or sail?

Why put nukes underwater when you can put them in the sky or in space?

Why fish when you could farm?

Planes may be the swiftest way to travel, but the are hardly the most romantic. I love the sea. I love sailing. I use a boat relaxation, I use a plane to get places. To answer the last question, fish kicks ass. It's delicious. And high in Omega 3's.

I mean, why would you transport goods to places using boats when it would be far easier to do it by plane or train?
***Cost prohibitive. Air freight is extravagantly expensive vs. seaborne transportation costs. Further, there are items that can’t be shipped via plane. My ego cannot fit into a plane for example.

What advantage could armies gain from travelling by sea when they could just yomp or sail?
***It’s the weight/cost thing again. Even if there are aircraft capable of carrying an M1 tank, you’re talking one tank per flight. That’s not going to work if you’re trying to move armored brigades except in extremis.

Why put nukes underwater when you can put them in the sky or in space?
****Its illegal t o put them in space (wiunk wink Russian weather satellite, yea…)
***Air define air? They were put in subs because subs are difficult to detect in sufficient time to avoid the counterstrike.

Why fish when you could farm?
****Same thing now with the concept of fish farming-good point though.

Cruises to the bahamas!!!

I see this carried over from the 40k River battles thread. And I have to laugh.

Logistically, it's easier for modern forces to stage a combined air/beach assault than it is to do a land based attack. Especially given the fact that it's easier to secure land-based borders than it is to secure beaches en masse. Airborne forces can easily drop in and secure an opening for the naval assets coming in, and can be refueled/resupplied on carriers.

But. This is *modern* stuff. No countries have any way of deploying from orbit, or dropping their forces right into the middle of it. If we had stuff on the scale of the Imperium/Tau, etc, we'd be mounting atmospheric assaults after softening up the target with orbital bombardments most likely.

Is htis for real, or did this cat just bait you guys? If it's for real we may need to look at British Eugenics.

The simple reason is that boats are much better than planes for lots of things.

Example: Transporting billions of dollars of toys from China to America. Boat = cheap. Plane = expensive.

Example: Travel from Portsmouth to Gosport.
Boat = 15 minute trip. Plane = 30 minute trip to get to the airport, followed by security, check-in etc.

Ah yes, the sea. She's a cruel bitch and my constant hanging over the rail offering the contents of my stomach did little to appease her.

Some goods pose to great a threat potential when sent by air, so must be sent by some alternative way (surface).

Some people don't like to fly ( which is why the Cure don't tour down under. Robert Smith is a claustrophobic, seasick, afraid-of-flying wuss.)

Because it is generally more efficient to move the bulk goods by surface than by air.

Nukes (weapons) are banned in space by treaty.

You can't farm fish. They kinda die when you plant them.

Fish farms tend to be wet.

We have trout and salmon 'farms' here (although I CAN go down to the beach and catch them (with a rod) from the sand).

They're generally tanks set up on land to stop the fishies from going all dried-up and dead-like.

Some areas/communities don't have much in the way of arable land (for farming) or the climate doesn't permit it. If either of these two is true and you live on the coast, you learn to like fish or move.

What do you call a fish with no eyes?
Fsh.

Fifty wrote:I mean, why would you transport goods to places using boats when it would be far easier to do it by plane or train?

What advantage could armies gain from travelling by sea when they could just yomp or sail?

Why put nukes underwater when you can put them in the sky or in space?

Why fish when you could farm?

Because too many pilots are drunks, or underpaid and lack experience.

planes are like flying buses
boring and crmped and you always want to end up yelling a mother for letting there kids yell for the entire time

garret wrote:planes are like flying buses
boring and crmped and you always want to end up pucnch a mother for letting her talk

Are you saying that you want to physically assault women on planes because they speak and have children?

In terms of goods being transported, like Fraz said its a money thing. Transport by ship is vastly cheaper than any alternatives. In fact its cheaper to transport by sea than by rail.

fixed it.
sorry i just woke up.

Fish farming is a big industry down here in Tasmania. We export our salmon all over the world (apparently), and if you drive along the larger rivers close to the sea, you'll see a lot of fish farms floating in the water. Fish can get in, but not out, so as well as the fish born in them, you get idiots swimming in to try and join the shoal, increasing the yield a bit.

My family also has an old friend who used to own a large trout farm a long way out of town. Huge dams filled with tasty rainbow trout, ripe for the taking. He sold it recently, but it still ships out all over the state.

Because you can't ski behind a jet?!

Fifty wrote: I mean, why would you transport goods to places using boats when it would be far easier to do it by plane or train?

It's far more expensive to transport goods via planes, and trains don’t cross oceans. The freighter version of the 747-400 can carry 218,800 lbs of cargo, the most of any commercial cargo plane. The cargo has to be non-explosive, non-corrosive, etc. The largest bulk cargo ship can carry 365, 000 tons of cargo. The ship can carry as much in one voyage as 3300 747 flights. The difference is speed. The ship can cross the Pacific in 3 weeks. The plane can do that in 12 hours. And, the plane does not have to land at a coastal airport. That is why people, and priority mail travel by plane instead of by boat.

Fifty wrote:What advantage could armies gain from travelling by sea when they could just yomp or sail?

Armies are huge things with voracious appetites for food, fuel and ammo. Vehicles are heavy and bulky. There is usually not a reason for men to arrive well in advance of their material. May as well keep them on a boat, away from mischief.

Fifty wrote:Why put nukes underwater when you can put them in the sky or in space?

The Strategic Air Command used to keep nuclear-armed bombers airborne around the clock. A couple of high profile accidents put that to rest. Nukes underwater on subs are virtually undetectable. The flight time of a ballistic missile from a sub offshore of an enemy country is mere minutes, and the enemy will not know where to place his anti-missile systems. Nukes in space is very dangerous, and prohibited. Parking a nuke in orbit over an opponent country reduces response time to such a degree, it is considered an act of war. And, it is crazy expensive to put stuff in orbit. It can cost more to put 365 lbs in orbit than to transport 365,000 tons across the ocean.

Fifty wrote:Why fish when you could farm?

Why farm when you can order in?

Typeline wrote:

garret wrote:planes are like flying buses
boring and crmped and you always want to end up pucnch a mother for letting her talk

Are you saying that you want to physically assault women on planes because they speak and have children?

Sounds like a terrorist to me!

also planes are borine
what is there to do then really sleep
the only good part is the mile high club.

"Progress" means turning something dangerous and exciting into something routine and safe.

grizgrin wrote:Is htis for real, or did this cat just bait you guys?

Although I decided on a career in teaching secondary science, I have a masters degree in Aero Eng and I've even won a big cash prise for a NASA competition. I know the main reasons better than anyone has given here.

Those threads about amphibious landings and river units drove me crazy though. This was my way of preventing my head exploding.

We use boats so we can re-enact the "Flying" scene from Titanic.

Some of you have probably already done this - don't deny it.

Fifty wrote:

grizgrin wrote:Is htis for real, or did this cat just bait you guys?

Although I decided on a career in teaching secondary science, I have a masters degree in Aero Eng and I've even won a big cash prise for a NASA competition. I know the main reasons better than anyone has given here.

Those threads about amphibious landings and river units drove me crazy though. This was my way of preventing my head exploding.

Ahhhhh...
Well then party on.

Oh, I see. This is one of those 'internet jokes'. Fifty, no troll please.

Successful troll was exceedingly successful. And really I cannot blame him for it either, even if trollin is technically a faux pas.