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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/27 08:41:42
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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At one time you could use True Grit with combi bolters.
I think in an FAQ they took that away.
Under the current rules, what can you use TG with in the Space Wolf Codex?
And by combi bolters I mean combi plas, melta, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/27 13:02:48
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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I don't think you could use it with the Combi-Bolter whose rules are given in the space wolves codex, since it is never said to be a bolter really. Infact that whole item doesn't really have enough rules to be used.
I think the other combi weapons that refer to codex space marines would work though since they definitely imply the model has a bolter in addition to a single shot of the secondary weapon, and since they have a bolter, they can true-grit with it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/27 13:22:24
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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The New Miss Macross!
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i don't have the codex handy with me but, if when it fires it uses the stat line of a bolter, it should get the true grit benefit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/27 13:28:34
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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The only information given about the Combi Bolter weapon in the space wolves codex is.
"Once per battle it can be fired as if it were a storm bolter."
which suggests that, you can shoot it once in the entire game, and that firing uses a storm bolters statline, that is all the weapon does, I doubt this is RAI, but it's certainly what is written.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/27 17:32:04
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Hooded Inquisitorial Interrogator
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The above is a collection of strange rambling that has nothing do to with the rules.
True Grit gives a bonus to models with a bolter.
So does the model have a bolter? No, he has a combi-bolter. A combi-bolter is not a bolter therefore no benefit for him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/27 18:04:05
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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However, it was previously FAQ'd to say they Combi Weapons DID work with True Grit. I think thats what is causing the confusion
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/28 12:26:24
Subject: Re:True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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I seem to recall that GW said that if the rules aren't in the rulebook they revert to the codex version.
In the SW codex it says that True Grit may be used with combi- (but not storm) bolters.
Seems to me theres no question.
As for the stats, remember SW still bases its weapons on SM (otherwise our AC would be heavy 3 without rending) thus we have the same rules for combi's as they do.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/28 13:17:43
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The first printing of the SW codex doesn't include the use of combi-bolters with True Grit.
The second (and any subsequent) printings of the SW codex do specifically include combi-bolters with True Grit.
Thanks GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 11:56:25
Subject: True Grit and Comi Bolters for Space Wolves
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Yeah, Stealth 2nd printing of Codex: Furry Marines (How I love them so!) let you use Combi Weapons with True Grit But not Storm Bolters. Not that it will matter for long, as Space Wolves are soon to become a boring Grey Nilla List with perhaps 1 or two interesting features (omg we get Chaos Marines with ATSKNF for 20 Points? YAY!)
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