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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 16:21:56
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Plasma cannons can overheat with a roll of 1 by D6.
If so, infantry cannot shoot the cannon.
But is the same true for vehicle-mounted plasma cannons?
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 16:24:05
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Read the Gets Hot! rule
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 16:40:58
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Waaaaaaagh! wrote:Read the Gets Hot! rule
Or, since he asked, someone could answer.
Gets hot has no effect on vehicle mounted plasma weaponry.
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Gwar: I'm going to quit while I can.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 16:42:12
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Thanks! That's what I thought.
Makes Executioners even more scary.
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Former moderator 40kOnline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 17:28:55
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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apwill4765 wrote:Waaaaaaagh! wrote:Read the Gets Hot! rule Or, since he asked, someone could answer. Gets hot has no effect on vehicle mounted plasma weaponry.
Yeah, I did answer, by telling him to read the damn rules. Since when did DakkaDakka suddenly become "Hey Guise I dont have the rulebook gimme rules lol" land?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 17:58:36
Subject: Re:Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Executing Exarch
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Read the Gets Hot! rule
If you are going to be a tool like that, at least give him the page number.
Or is it that you don't own a rule book?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 18:03:52
Subject: Re:Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Clthomps wrote:Read the Gets Hot! rule
If you are going to be a tool like that, at least give him the page number.
Or is it that you don't own a rule book?
I have the Rulebooks (3rd, 4th and 5th) and 90% of the codex's, including several from 2nd edition and Rouge trader. I just assumed that the OP was intelligent enough to use an index and didn't wish to insult him by providing a Page number, as that would suggest that he couldn't use an index.
But if you insist:
Page 31, Paragraph 6, under the title " GETS HOT!", Sentence 4, last Sentence before the example of a "Gets Hot!" weapon.
Satisfied?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 18:05:10
Subject: Re:Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Wrack Sufferer
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WHY IS EVERYONE FIGHTING!?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 18:06:34
Subject: Re:Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Typeline wrote:WHY IS EVERYONE FIGHTING!?
Because apparently when I give a correct answer I am a dick
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/30 19:01:15
Subject: Re:Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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Waaaaaaagh! wrote:Typeline wrote:WHY IS EVERYONE FIGHTING!?
Because apparently when I give a correct answer I am a dick
No, it's not just when you give a correct answer.
http://instantrimshot.com/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 08:28:33
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Geez I'm gone a a week...
But yeah, Gets Hot! Weapons on Vehicles don't Get Hot!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 12:26:08
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What about skimmers with plasma cannons like the Dark Angel's Master of the Ravenwing? Are they exempted from gets hot even if they aren't technically a vehicle?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 12:37:14
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Zoot wrote:What about skimmers with plasma cannons like the Dark Angel's Master of the Ravenwing? Are they exempted from gets hot even if they aren't technically a vehicle?
Since when were Skimmers not vehicles??? Does it have an Armour Value? Then it's a Vehicle. What makes you think Skimmers are not technically a vehicle? Or is it because its a "Special Character"?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 12:43:55
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Dakka Veteran
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I think he means the Master of Ravenwing jet bike option that comes with a bike that is kited out with a plasma cannon and a twin-linked stormbolter.
RAW would say he is subject to overheating. Because a bike is not a vehicle. But some groups play it that the weapon does not overheat because it is vehicle mounted and not a weapon carried by the rider. However, this is not supported by the rules that I am aware of. But I am ok with it either way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 12:51:28
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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I do believe that the MoR's plasma cannon does over heat, he has no AV only his toughness and save. So I think he would take a wound from that weapon over heating, granted he failed his save.
EDIT: The Marine has a fething Plasma Cannon between his legs, now I'm not sure if SM have the standard bits of a male, something most seem to thing they dont, but I think that a plasma weapon over heating between your legs could hurt a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 12:56:49
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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MotR's plasma cannon CAN overheat because he is not a vehicle.
He is a unit type: Jetbike, not "skimmer". He has an armour save (not an armour value). Pretty clear. Roll a 1, and he fails a save, instant hot-shot.
Brings new definition to the term "crotch rocket" though.
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Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 13:46:53
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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chromedog wrote:
Brings new definition to the term "crotch rocket" though.
http://instantrimshot.com/ two of these in one thread?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 14:19:12
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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Dammnit why do people try and confuse me!
As a Spess Puppy Player I only use the DA Codex for Loo Roll, and had used up that page already. I thought he was a skimmer (as started by the person I was replying to) not a Jetbike.
If he is a Jetbike, then yes, he Overheats. Nothing Exempts Jetbikes or Bikes from suffering "Gets Hot!" Results
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 20:07:24
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Sickening Carrion
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Not to worry Gwar , Sammael has the chioce of the Jetbike or the Land Speeder ,that thinks it's a land raider.
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Who are all these people, and why aren't they dead? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 20:17:51
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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SeattleDV8 wrote:Not to worry Gwar , Sammael has the chioce of the Jetbike or the Land Speeder ,that thinks it's a land raider.
That's what I remember. I remember a flash of 14's when I has that curry, I was sure of it. On the Jetbike he overheats, on the Land Speeder he does not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 20:30:33
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Cool down guys.
In the 4th ed, plasma cannons were rarely available as tank weapons; the Chaos Dread can have one.
But the new blast shooting rules changed the way to use plasma cannons. The shot fails by rolling 1 from D6.
But this does not transfers from models with armor save to tanks and walkers. This makes tank-mounted plasma cannons even more scary as they always hit!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 20:40:34
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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wuestenfux wrote:In the 4th ed, plasma cannons were rarely available as tank weapons; the Chaos Dread can have one.
-Cough-
So could pretty much every other dreadnought.
Yes they were not on tanks often, but now with Codex: PlasmaRussAway! out, they are used everywhere :(
wuestenfux wrote:But this does not transfers from models with armor save to tanks and walkers. This makes tank-mounted plasma cannons even more scary as they always hit! 
No they hit 1/3 just like everything else. They can scatter true, and you are more likely to deviate than hit IIRCpadixon wrote:I think he means the Master of Ravenwing jet bike option that comes with a bike that is kited out with a plasma cannon and a twin-linked stormbolter.
With the new rules, when will you EVER fire the storm Bolter lol. Only time i can think is if you are 6" away for an assault and have been rolling really bad all night
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 21:57:01
Subject: Re:Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Raging Ravener
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Even if you want ed to assault you still could, as all bikes and Jet bikes are now relentless. so at which pint you would need simply for it to not scatter back at you. so Fire that plasma and WAAAGH! {read as} "CHARGE! away."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/05/31 23:03:50
Subject: Plasma Cannons - Overheating If Vehicle Mounted?
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Ground Crew
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I think so because it doesn't specify it in the new rulebook.. might wanna check it out under the Gets Hot! section tho
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