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So, it has recently come to my attention that some people Really dont like it when you roll their dice.

I have been gaming for 13 years now, and only within the past 2 months or so have I even heard of people getting upset over dice usage.

I would actually prefer to use someone else's dice (and vice versa). There is an element of trust involved. trust that the dice wont be lost/stolen, and trust that the dice are not weighted.

in a game 99% of the time i will grab the nearest dice if i need to roll 1 or 2 dice for a save or leadership test, and that will include YOUR dice if they are closer to me than my own. If i need to roll 4 or more dice ill just reach over/walk around and grab mine, just for uniformity.

The only thing i could see as a valid concern really is a Germophobic Hypochondriac who doesnt want your dirty hands touching somehting that he has to touch. But if that is the case then they would have hand sanitizer on them anyways so it doesnt matter.


I dunno, I just really dont understand the "dont touch my dice" mentality.

Well you do realize many gamers are not very sanitary.

Which means they touch the pizza they eat , they wipe the mouth with their hand after , or they wipe their nose.

Oh all that and they dont wash their hands.
That doesnt gross you out lol?

Who knows.

I've had people give me the dirtiest stare for touching their dice, whilst others have actually had me roll their dice.

As they say "To touch a man's dice is to touch a man's balls"

I get really upset when people touch my dice. Not my opponent but people just walking up and messing with my dice. It happens all the time and I have very specific little sets of dice that are color coded to the stuff in my army (Like 3 red for the PWs and 27 black for the normal attack, a squad of 10 CSM with a Ch. w/ PF). People will just come up while I'm playing and start fething with my gak. They have lost my dice doing it before so now any time anyone starts doing it I yell at them. Except my opponent of course, he can touch them.

I honestly don't mind my opponent using my dice, though I don't see why he'd grab them because they're usually organized right in front of me. If he wants to borrow some, sure go right ahead, but if someone just walks up and starts messing with my dice I've got a problem

I've got a friend who was incredibly superstitious about his dice and wouldn't let anyone else roll them. It went so far sometimes that if you touched his dice he'd go buy a brand new set. To each their own I suppose.

Just ask first. If you need dice, I will let you.

I don't want my opponent rolling my dice. I have a set of pink dice I will let them borrow, much like my "bitch-tape" which is made of floppy plastic and is a real pain to use. If you don't bring the proper equipment, you deserve the crap I give you. lol

The one exception to this is my "scatter" dice, it always seems to live up to its namesake for other people!

This is all a matter of courtesy. Of course you should ask before rolling someone else's dice because you're borrowing it from them, and it's the polite thing to do.

Then again, the polite thing to do is also to say "Sure, no problem," because both players are naturally being good mannered, polite people. Or that's the theory, anyway.

But, personally, I've gotten used to avoiding using the other player's dice just because that makes it easier to make sure that there aren't any wandering dice at the end of the game. Granted, dice are like pens a certain amount of attrition should be expected, but it's annoying when the little dice cube is missing a die.

I believe 100% in Dice karma. It's one of the few superstitions I have. Roll your own damn dice.

It's annoying when someone takes away the dice you put besides models to keep track of things.

Ooooh, yeah. Thats why I say "If you touch the red dice, whatever they were on is healed to full health."

There is something inside me that cringes when people use my dice. I hope that's its just because I fear them losing them under the table something. As the only people who ever borrow them are friends who are pretty careful, and we play in my house so any dice that did get lost I could find in time anyway, this is really stupid of me! I wouldn't say anything as I'm aware its a stupid way to feel, but I definitely feel that way! It's most bizarre!

Gamer, your name is "nerd"!

I thought the dice superstition was a gaming given. I've never been particular about the dice I roll, but as a rule, I don't use anyone else's without first asking permission, and then only as a last resort. Given that most other games of chance throughout history involved using a shared deck or set of dice, one has to believe that gamer's probably adopted this method mainly due to hygiene reasons

I like to use my own dice. My dice get jealous if I have my hands on someone else's dice.

Lordhat wrote:I believe 100% in Dice karma. It's one of the few superstitions I have. Roll your own damn dice.

^This.

However, I do have a box of random dice at my house. Those are for anyone's rolling.

I am well known among my friends for having really bad luck with dice (I guess it makes up for my good luck in other things).

As such, when anyone else gets a bad roll at an inopportune moment, they ask if I touched their dice. Put my dice anywhere near their dice. Had my dice in the same room as their dice, and so on.

Cryonicleech wrote:Who knows.

I've had people give me the dirtiest stare for touching their dice, whilst others have actually had me roll their dice.

As they say "To touch a man's dice is to touch a man's balls"

where do you think I warm my dice up in?
they have a special mojo.

I have a tough enough time trying to not lose my dice. I don't need the associated rate loss of dice to be increased.

Having gamed for a looong time with alot of different types of folks, I can tell you dice etiquette is a very big deal. I'm genuinely surprised to hear anyone suggest it's OK to roll someone else's dice without permission. Would you let someone pick up and use your Dreadnought in a game at a neighboring table? I suspect the arguement of, "You're not using it right now" wouldn't fly when they pull it out of your mini case without asking your permission. You might let them use it if they asked politely, but you would expect them to ask first- because you just might not want them to use it.
Maybe it's because I've been around dice-dependent games for 20+years, but I really am shocked that anyone who plays any roleplaying, miniature, or war game would not know how touchy people get about their dice. I've seen people throw away perfectly good dice because they hit a bad streak, keep good luck trinkets in their dice bags, and nearly come to blows over dice grabbers. Heck, there's even a chapter in the Hackmaster Player's Guide dedicated to dice etiquette. I'm a very pleasant fellow to play against and generally very easy going, but a quick way to get on my bad side is to grab my dice or miniatures without asking- it's a pretty good sign that someone is generally rude.

solkan wrote:This is all a matter of courtesy. Of course you should ask before rolling someone else's dice because you're borrowing it from them, and it's the polite thing to do.

Then again, the polite thing to do is also to say "Sure, no problem," because both players are naturally being good mannered, polite people. Or that's the theory, anyway.

But, personally, I've gotten used to avoiding using the other player's dice just because that makes it easier to make sure that there aren't any wandering dice at the end of the game. Granted, dice are like pens a certain amount of attrition should be expected, but it's annoying when the little dice cube is missing a die.

LuigiX wrote:Having gamed for a looong time with alot of different types of folks, I can tell you dice etiquette is a very big deal. I'm genuinely surprised to hear anyone suggest it's OK to roll someone else's dice without permission. Would you let someone pick up and use your Dreadnought in a game at a neighboring table? I suspect the arguement of, "You're not using it right now" wouldn't fly when they pull it out of your mini case without asking your permission. You might let them use it if they asked politely, but you would expect them to ask first- because you just might not want them to use it.
Maybe it's because I've been around dice-dependent games for 20+years, but I really am shocked that anyone who plays any roleplaying, miniature, or war game would not know how touchy people get about their dice. I've seen people throw away perfectly good dice because they hit a bad streak, keep good luck trinkets in their dice bags, and nearly come to blows over dice grabbers. Heck, there's even a chapter in the Hackmaster Player's Guide dedicated to dice etiquette. I'm a very pleasant fellow to play against and generally very easy going, but a quick way to get on my bad side is to grab my dice or miniatures without asking- it's a pretty good sign that someone is generally rude.

I'm surprised that only two people posted this. I agree wholeheartedly with both Solkan and LuigiX. Rolling someone else's dice without permission is just impolite. Asking to roll someone else's dice is always good policy, and is just the polite thing to do.

in a game 99% of the time i will grab the nearest dice if i need to roll 1 or 2 dice for a save or leadership test, and that will include YOUR dice if they are closer to me than my own.

Honestly, this shows a general disregard for the other person. If you don't respect the fact that xyz items belong to me and aren't your's to do with as you please, then it comes off as though you don't respect me. It also makes me less likely to want to game with you in the future. Respect and courtesy aren't about the plastic stuff as much as the person you're playing with/against. "It's just a game" is no excuse for bad manners.

Also don't count out the superstition factor. Pawing someones "lucky" dice can be as offensive as taking a dump in the middle of the game table. You wouldn't do that, would you?

People try their best not to let me touch, much less use their dice. I don't blame them however as I've been known to pass along a horrible curse to any dice I touch.

ONE WORD: SWINE FLU
ok maybe that's two words

Touching my dice doesn't bother me over much, its people touching my miniatures. I will remove my own casualties, thank you. I'll bury my dead.

If you're going to be using something of someone else's ask them before you do it. That's just common courtesy. If they say no, you'll know its not cool.

Being curteous is part of not being a jerk.

I tend to grab my opponent's successful to wound rolls to roll saves with. just makes things faster. apart from that i try to use my own though that being said, I don't have special dice yet, just a margarine container of random d6's i had lying around. I'll get colour coded dice eventually, but for now i don't care if someone uses my bastard dice.

I don't mind my opponent using my dice if a) They've forgotten to bring their own. b) Their hands aren't covered in skeb (I've played one guy who openly picked his nose before). c) They don't try to appropriate them.

Taking my dice to another table is a definite no; the amount that i have lost after they've been 'shuffled' into someone elses' pool is unreal.

Same goes for touching my minis, i'm the one who spent 15 hours of time painting Celestine, if someone's going to drop her onto the floor it'll be me thankyouverymuch!

Stubb's Number 1 Rule of Dice Use: You don't touch my dice and I don't touch yours.

I usually suggest that we use only one person's dice - gets rid of any issues with some dice being better distributed than others and saves the need to try and split the dice up at the end.

Never i don't touch yours don't touch mine. Sorry if you forgot yours go buys some new dice.

Like Luna already pointed out, there are very good reasons to be reluctant to loan people anything. I don't want to lend out dice, templates, and especially models considering that some people eat while they play and they might come back greasy or missing paint, etc., and that sometimes things get "accidentally" shuffled into someone else's crap like it was said, or just plain forgotten about and then you don't get a damn thing you loaned out back (and that sends a message to everyone that you're a sucker and they'll repeatedly take advantage of you at every opportunity, like the stray cat that never leaves if you feed it one time).

The food especially bothers me. I was playing in a game at the store with a guy who was snacking on Cheetos puffs while playing, and to simulate vehicle damage results he insisted on putting a cheese puff on your painted tanks. And that's one of the worst possible foods to have around considering how that cheese crap gets all over everything. Basically the guy doesn't care that much about his own models so he doesn't care about yours either, and "They're just models, it's only a game" I guess so you shouldn't worry about it either.

Anyway, if you don't come with a tape, dice, or even all the models you're supposed to have...why? Lay off the booze or pull your head out of your ass, either one.