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I've seen two players do this, and as it did not give them an advantage, I didn't want to argue it but:

On a gaming table you have the long table edges, and then the short table edges. these two players brought units on from reserve on the short table edge, but still in their deployment zone.

I did question both players if the unit could outflank, and their reply was its their deployment zone....

Legal or loophole?

Totally legal.

The rules simply state that you must deploy within X inches of your table edge. How far along to the left or right of your controlled table edge is totally your call.

it says the player's own table edge.

Not edges. In this case I'd say that it's the long board edge.

This becomes awkward in a quarters deployment though, where both sides are just about equally the player's deployment zone.

No, he cannot.

All non outflanking/Deepstriking etc reserves must Arrive from the players TABLE EDGE. Nowhere Else.

Deployment zones only matter for initial Deployment. Nothing else.

If they still argue refer them to the reserves rule.

I looked up the wording under reserves....It does say the unit must come from the player's table edge. However....I can see someone saying that the table edge is "theirs" because their deployment zone "claimed"it. Is there a specific place in the rules that says deployment zones are gone after deployment?

I will note though, that in the deployment zone sections, it does say a player picks a long table edge and that is the players table edge.....I guess the problem will be connecting that edge with the one referenced in the reserves rule.

Look at the various scenarios, specifically on pages 92 and 93. The long table edge is always noted as being the 'player's table edge'.

General Hobbs wrote:

I looked up the wording under reserves....It does say the unit must come from the player's table edge. However....I can see someone saying that the table edge is "theirs" because their deployment zone "claimed"it. Is there a specific place in the rules that says deployment zones are gone after deployment?

I will note though, that in the deployment zone sections, it does say a player picks a long table edge and that is the players table edge.....I guess the problem will be connecting that edge with the one referenced in the reserves rule.

How is that a hard connection?

It says the player picks a table edge; then says the reserves come in from the players table edge. Sounds pretty darn cut and dry there...

Also remember that in a spearhead deployment, reserves come from the entire long table edge, and can be used as a sort of "poor man's outflank."

willydstyle wrote:Also remember that in a spearhead deployment, reserves come from the entire long table edge, and can be used as a sort of "poor man's outflank."

This has won me a couple of games where the opposing player did not realize it could be done.

Relevant lines:
From a scenario (all have the same line):
The player that goes first then chooses one of the long table edges to be his own table edge.

Reserves, Page 94:
When a reserve unit arrives, it must move onto the table from the controlling player’s own table edge (unless it’s deep striking or outflanking).

Woopsy! My post was wrong! I misread the question, and thought you meant deployements. GWAR!'s answer is the right one.

If the scenario doesn't permit it, he has to be touching his table edge. There is no "claiming" any of the short table edge because of his deployment zone.

I think in 3e and 4e is was okay to deploy along the short edges but in 5e it is very clear you can only deploy from your long table edge for pitched battle deployment.

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(as if this wasn't said a million times before) Gwar! is right, but i still read half my rulebook to check

Green Blow Fly wrote:I think in 3e and 4e is was okay to deploy along the short edges but in 5e it is very clear you can only deploy from your long table edge for pitched battle deployment.

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And for Dawn of War and Spearhead.