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If in the shooting phase you shoot down every model of that unit in Unit-A. Then you go to the assaulting phase. Can the unit that shot down Unit-A assault a different unit that is within 6'' but not the same unit you shot at because that unit is dead? Since the rules say you must assualt the unit you shot at.
   
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You must assault the unit you shot at. If that unit is gone, you cannot assault. The only time you may declare a charge at a unit other than the one you shot at is if you destroy up a transport with passengers inside (in which case you may assault the passengers).

And a friendly tip for next time:
Name your thread Appropriately, and one question mark is enough.
Next time name your thread: Can I assault if the unit I shot at is gone?

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no the only time you can is if you shoot and blow up a transport then you can assault the occupents

 
   
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bladedragon03 wrote: Since the rules say you must assualt the unit you shot at.


There's you're answer.

If you shoot, and want to assault, you have to assault the unit at which you shot. There is only one exception given by the rules to allow you to assault a different unit if your target was destroyed, and that's for Transport vehicles... you're allowed to assault a unit that bails out if their transport is scragged.


Edit: Or, you know, what they said.

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insaniak wrote:Edit: Or, you know, what they said.
Finally got one on you for a change

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That's a stupid rule.
   
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bladedragon03 wrote:That's a stupid rule.
Errrm... your point?

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I think his point was that he's not fond of this particular rule.

Could be wrong.

 
   
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I think the rule is stupid too.

Are the shooters dumb founded after they killed their target that they dunno what else to do next?

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OK I'm going to shot this unit and kill them all. There is another unit right here beside me, guess I'll just get to them next turn. That's like saying in a real war you wouldn't shot at the guys shooting at you and then turn to the to the guy that's 3 or 4 feet away from you and say I'm not going to go over there and kill him I'll just wait for him to come to me knowing that he would have the adv. if I let him come at me when i would have the adv. if I ran to him. What would you do? I'm thinking shot the guy shooting at you and then attack the guy that's about to attack you. That makes since to me.

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bladedragon03 wrote:OK I'm going to shot this unit and kill them all. There is another unit right here beside me guess I'm just get to them next turn. That's like saying in a real war you wouldn't shot at the guys shooting at you and then turn to the to the guy that's 3 or 4 feet away from you and say I'm not going to go over there and kill him I'll just wait for him to come to me knowing that he would have the adv. if I let him come at me when i would have the adv. if I ran to him. What would you do? I'm thinking shot the guy shooting at you and then attack the guy that's about to attack you. That makes since to me.
Ohhh the "In real life it would work like this" argument.

Hate to break it to you, but in real wars officers don't broadcast their rank to snipers by waving swords about, nor do real wars take place in a Turn based format. Nor do people go about killing tanks with their fists when Nuking the site from Orbit is much more effective. The game is an Abstraction, nothing more.

if you don't like it, don't play the game.

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You must think I don't know that. I'm just saying that if this was real this would be stupid. By the way remember when war was to stand not that far from each other and just trade off shot's. Some wars are fought stupid.
   
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bladedragon03 wrote:That's like saying in a real war you wouldn't shot at the guys shooting at you and then turn to the to the guy that's 3 or 4 feet away from you and say I'm not going to go over there and kill him I'll just wait for him to come to me knowing that he would have the adv.


Not really. It's more like 'in a real war' where the unit is focussed on their target specifically, and after wiping them out takes a moment to regroup and find their next target, rather than just running in a random direction to wherever they think the next bit of action might be...



The game isn't really intended to be a direct simulation. A lot of abstractions are required to keep things flowing, and to keep a balance between shooty, assaulty and all-rounder units.

Allowing units to assault a different unit to the one they charged tips the balance more towards all rounder and shooty units, as it allows them to have an influence on more enemy units in a single turn, whereas assaulty units generally have to focus on a single enemy unit at a time.

 
   
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Don't get me wrong it's the game and it's how it's played and that's how I will play it I just don't like that rule. Even though it's better for me.
   
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bladedragon03 wrote:Don't get me wrong it's the game and it's how it's played and that's how I will play it I just don't like that rule. Even though it's better for me.
Well, as much as I hate to be the bearer of bad news and Crusher of Dreams™, why should we be bothered if you like the rule or not.

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Then why did you even bother posting that. becuase that really doesn't matter to me that you get to say some stupid quote. If you really didn't care then why do you waste your time posting these things? I think you do care. maybe not a lot but a little. But who cares right? =)
   
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bladedragon03 wrote:Then why did you even bother posting that. becuase that really doesn't matter to me that you get to say some stupid quote. If you really didn't care then why do you waste your time posting these things? I think you do care. maybe not a lot but a little. But who cares right? =)
Obviously you care though, otherwise you would not have responded.

But anyway, we answered your question, let the thread die hmm?

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Dude, Gwar, you got him on the rule, do you really need to post things like "nobody cares what you think"?

Which, logically, you can't say because you don't know for sure - someone very well could, so such blanket statements are dangerous to say, from a logical standpoint.

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Yeah he got me on the rule because I didn't know it. But the fact of him being an ass I got him on that one. I could care less really. I'm just messing around now.


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