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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 08:09:27
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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Had a question about warbike exhaust clouds. Do they still provide cover for units behind or obscure LoS? I believe in 3rd they did - didn't play 4th - and doesn't state this in the ork codex or FAQ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 08:12:56
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Hanging Out with Russ until Wolftime
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The Exhaust Cloud has no Special effect about Providing cover to other units. However, any unit drawing LoS though the Bikers to shoot at a non MC, Non vehicle unit that is not elevated above the bikers will result in a 4+ cover save for the target, just like any other unit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 08:50:41
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Killer Klaivex
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It doesn't make much sense, but it would just be abusable in 5th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 10:25:20
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Stormin' Stompa
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Can you clarify what you mean, Cheese Elemental?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 14:43:04
Subject: Re:Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Hierarch
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I think what he means is that one could end up giving themselves a nasty screen of Gouda if you could compound the biker's smokescreen save with something like the KFF, or other screening units.
In other words, it would merit a 5-10 point increase (at least) if it actually obscured models behind it like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 15:48:16
Subject: Re:Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Quick-fingered Warlord Moderatus
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Dronze wrote:I think what he means is that one could end up giving themselves a nasty screen of Gouda if you could compound the biker's smokescreen save with something like the KFF, or other screening units.
In other words, it would merit a 5-10 point increase (at least) if it actually obscured models behind it like that.
Except you can only ever roll one save per wound... And as Gwar stated, they already give a cover save if the enemy draw LOS through thier unit to models behind them, just like the old rule, only the save they grant is 1 better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 18:21:40
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Well, the old rule was a little bit better, since it also gave cover saves against Barrage if the Barrage went over the screen............
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 19:50:37
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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NO, I do not think it specifiacally says so. So there is no reason to assume that it would. The rest is just fluff
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 20:27:45
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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The current Orks codex was written under fourth edition with an eye toward the forthcoming fifth edition rules.
The warbike "smoke screen" rule was removed from the codex along with the grots' screening rule since in fifth edition, every unit gives cover saves to units behind it.
Thus, special codex rules for those units were soon to be largely redundant.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/06/16 20:39:23
Subject: Ork Warbike Exhaust Cloud cause obscurity?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
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