Dawn of War II - There is Only War

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**THQInsider**

The Dawn of War II 'There is Only War' update will be coming out this summer - this is a major update, bringing a new observer feature, PvP balance updates, and 8 new multiplayer maps!

You'll be able to watch custom multiplayer games, and get a look at at the status of the players, with the observer feature. Later today there should be an exclusive first look at this on GameReplays.org...

Relic have also tweaked many of the units and added some new abilities, which should improve balance issues - there'll be an open beta early in July, for all DOW II owners.
They've fixed some bugs and exploits as well

For screens of the new multiplayer maps, and for updates as they happen, visit the community site: http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=668

**BrookM**

Nice, any word on the proposed single/coop DLC?

**THQInsider**

No word on DLC as yet, I'll pass that on when I have info

GameReplays feature on the coming update here, using a hybrid of the 1.3 retail version with features of the new update: http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar2/portals.php?show=page&name=exclusive-dow2-footage-replay-observer-update-patch

There's also an interview with Bentguru, the GameReplays reporter who was picked to visit Relic for the playtest: http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar2/portals.php?show=page&name=exclusive-gamereplays-interview-dow2-bentguru-relic-update-patch

**youngblood**

Any word on if there will be a way to play this offline seeing as I don't have internet at home, but do have it at work.

**THQInsider**

youngblood wrote:Any word on if there will be a way to play this offline seeing as I don't have internet at home, but do have it at work.

Aside from the first time (activation and downloading patches) you can play without an internet connection by setting Steam to offline mode, and using an offline profile for Games for Windows live.

I'd see about getting your PC to a mate's house, or even to work (if they don't mind ofc) just to get the game activated.

**youngblood**

Ok cool. That question had been floating around alot and had me avoiding getting it. I can use Starbuck's wifi. I'd prefer not to be there all day though

**THQInsider**

It might take a while to get all the patches, as there have been a few, and the initial patch was a big one.

Map editing, anyone?
It's now been confirmed that the new update will also include World Builder, so you can make your own maps.
More info here: http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=709

**Anshal**

When will this be released, I know the beat is comming out in early July, but how we will we get the beta??

**THQInsider**

The open Beta for "There is only War" is available today at 2:00pm PST (22:00 GMT) through your Steam client and ends Monday 13th July.
For details http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=722

There is also a complete list here of everything that is featured in the update.
http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=724

Also check out the how-to-guide for the World Builder application http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=726

The Beta went live last night and ESL is running a tournament: http://www.esl.eu/uk/dow2/news/92441/ - That's the UK link, but I think they're running US tournaments as well.

**THQInsider**

You will be pleased to know that tonight all DOW II owners will receive the "There is only War" update which includes the release of the World Builder - it's time to start creating your own battlefields!

The update is now live to everyone...are you all enjoying it?

**Michailov**

I'm sorry but no, I am not enjoying it.

Relic has still no idea how to balance things, insted of just tipping the scale with a minor nudge they bring out the powerhammer and smack so the whole damn scale flies through a wall or two.

For example, first thing the did in the beta.
Slugga, a unit that everyone has complained about not having survivabillity in T3. Boost their dmg by 80%? yea....

**Anshal**

Michailov wrote:I'm sorry but no, I am not enjoying it.

Relic has still no idea how to balance things, insted of just tipping the scale with a minor nudge they bring out the powerhammer and smack so the whole damn scale flies through a wall or two.

For example, first thing the did in the beta.
Slugga, a unit that everyone has complained about not having survivabillity in T3. Boost their dmg by 80%? yea....

What the

have you been smoking... T1 units are NOT meant to be used as any ting else than cappers when the game reaches T2&T3. And Orks are messed upp, Sluggas needed that boost else they be butt muched by everyting else. I agree with that Relic has messed many tings up but it has gotten way better with this latest patch! Relic needs to do some heavy patching, and get a exp pack availibal in the months to come.

**Michailov**

They needed A boost, but a 80% buff is noway near a "ok" balancechange.
Apart from that it got nerfd into 1.5 it's just the principle of such a boost deserves a slap.

Sluggas problem was never that they lacked dmg, it was that their hp got blown away by everything.

**Anshal**

Michailov wrote:They needed A boost, but a 80% buff is noway near a "ok" balancechange.
Apart from that it got nerfd into 1.5 it's just the principle of such a boost deserves a slap.

Sluggas problem was never that they lacked dmg, it was that their hp got blown away by everything.

No amount of boost of healt or dmg is gonna save the Orks from being the under dog in almost very match. Relic

up when they made the Orks. the lack of all round good units is that factions downfall. AlL T1,T2 & T3 units are either to expensive or are just plain horribel. Take Nobs for an exampel, they are very good but waaay to expencive for the time being. The same goes for for Looted Tank.

In MP its two factions that really kicks butt, Its Sm with the horribel Tac spam and Eldar who rule the battlefield. My conclusion, Either do away with the Orks or make them playeball at least. Same goes for nids

**THQInsider**

The Dawn of War II SCAR documentation is now available for fans that are interested in modifying the game.

For more details check it out here.

**George Spiggott**

Are there plans to add any new races to the current ones?

**Anshal**

When will Relic get their fingers out of their behindes and acctualy make this game, worth using my time on! In its current state its just fecking horribel. Spam should not be a way to win... Tac spam is just too easy to use and to hard to beat. Or nid spam!

So Relic& THQ GET YOUR GODDAMT ACT TOGETTER

**THQInsider**

As yet, I've not heard anything about additional races.

If anyone has been busy with the World Builder, this may be of interest: The first community map building contest is now underway at GameReplays.org!
The winning map will be added to the game as an official map.

The Rules

* 1v1 Maps only.
* Entrants must be 18 years of age or older.
* Size of the map needs to be maximum 256x256 playable area, although smaller and varying lengths/widths are fine, and that the terrain width should be 175% of its size. Meaning there would be a border of unplayable area around the map that would need to be beautified.
* Maps must be created for the current version of Dawn of War 2.
* Maps must be designed for multiplayer/skirmish only.
* You must post using the format given below. This is not a discussion thread.
* If you need your map to be tested before you submit it you can post it at GR Custom Map Showcase or at the Dawn of War 2 Official Forums
* Final versions only. The map must be functional once it's submitted.
* Advanced scripting/triggering systems are not allowed
* Each entrant can submit only one map. However, you can change the map you wish to be submitted before the indicated deadline.(How to do this correctly is explained below)
* Maps must be made from start to finish, and must not be available or have early versions available in public places, nor have screenshots revealed in public forums and sites.
* The maps must be original. That is to say, remakes of previous Dawn of War maps or those of other titles are not permitted.
* Any unit and faction changes in the map file itself must be minuscule and non-gameplay affecting, e.g. renaming civilian/garrisonable buildings.
* You must post one mini-map and between two to five in game/on map screenshots(more info about this below)
* You must provide a link in your post as to where you can download the map. Screenshots are not needed in your download but a readme – either in .txt or .doc format - needs to be provided, giving the name of the map, the designer, and any special thanks to or anyone who helped you balance etc. your map.

Instructions for submitting your map, and details on the judging process can be found here: http://www.gamereplays.org/dawnofwar2/portals.php?show=page&name=dawn-of-war-2-map-competition&home.

**Cheese Elemental**

Anshal wrote:When will Relic get their fingers out of their behindes and acctualy make this game, worth using my time on! In its current state its just fecking horribel. Spam should not be a way to win... Tac spam is just too easy to use and to hard to beat. Or nid spam!

So Relic& THQ GET YOUR GODDAMT ACT TOGETTER

Spam has always been a staple of RTS games. What, do you expect 'Nids to be an elite force, considering that their Hive Fleets number in the billions?

**Anshal**

Cheese Elemental wrote:
Anshal wrote:When will Relic get their fingers out of their behindes and acctualy make this game, worth using my time on! In its current state its just fecking horribel. Spam should not be a way to win... Tac spam is just too easy to use and to hard to beat. Or nid spam!

So Relic& THQ GET YOUR GODDAMT ACT TOGETTER

Spam has always been a staple of RTS games. What, do you expect 'Nids to be an elite force, considering that their Hive Fleets number in the billions?

No that I do not expect but I expect the game to be somewhat balanced. I took the liberty of expecting a BALANCED game but then again I have been known to be wrong before

**ian00107**

I remember reading in IIRC PC Gamer magazine that there was a turret defense co-op mode in dawn of war II. This was before the game was released. Are they still going to do this or was I just having a really good pipe dream?

**Schepp himself**

Anshal...seriously, you should stop bitching at thingsall over the place. For example in another thread we were discussing COH vs. DOW2 and you let this fly:

Anshal wrote:
DoW 2 Vs CoH = Epic win for DoW 2, CoH is just all abouth the spam, altoue DoW2 has some serious faults at the time beeing it still beatss all other RTS games by a long shot, no more spendig forever building a base, just one stronghold is all you need. And the micro in DoW 2 beats CoH bye miles

and this:

Anshal wrote:
BrookM wrote:
BrookM wrote:CoH has effective counters against certain units. Sure you can spam but then the game isn't you a gakker like you.

Rigth.... And I suppose you are the genious that can think of a counter for everyting. CoH is just BORING! It takes no skills in team match, the ones thta just spam enough in the first five minuts or play as Alies and spam rifel squads with sticky bombs win. T1 spam in DoW 2 only makes you dead, there you need strategy to win, but then again this MY opinion

And now in this thread what do I see...?
I'm usually not the one who calls people something, but I just want to say how inappropriate this behavior is imo.

Greets
Schepp himself

**BrookM**

Forget it, it's just a big horse he's on.

**Cor Angars**

The only new thing I've noticed on the "There is Only War" beta, is a bunch of new chapters I've never heard about!
And still no Crimson fists.

**THQInsider**

Relic and the Dawn of War II team will be at Penny Arcade Expo 2009 - the 3 day long convention, and they will be presenting a new game mode...
For further details on the event check it out here.

**BrookM**

What? What? What?

Could be that defence mode that I heard about but I'm keeping my mind open, great to see that the game is still being worked and tinkered with.

**THQInsider**

It's a new survival co-op mode called The Last Stand!

More info here and a trailer.