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So I'm just starting to get into WarHammer [I've only played about ten games] but I wanna make sure that I have a good army list before I start buying models.

Heres my list.

//HQ

Eldrad Ulthran -- 210

Avatar of Khaine -- 155


//Troops

Wraith Guard x3 -- 105
Warlock -- 25
Destructor -- 10
Spiritseer -- 6
Total -- 146

Wraith Guard x3 -- 105
Warlock -- 25
Destructor -- 10
Spiritseer -- 6
Total -- 146

Wraith Guard x3 -- 105
Warlock -- 25
Destructor -- 10
Spiritseer -- 6
Total -- 146


//Elites

Harlequin Troupe x3 -- 54
Fusion Pistol x2 -- 20
Harlequins Kiss x5 -- 20
Death Jester -- 28
Shadow Seer -- 48
Total -- 170


//Fast

Warp Spiders x5 -- 110
Warp Spider Exarch -- 34
Additional Death Spinner -- 5
Powerblades -- 10
Withdrawal -- 15
Total -- 174

Shining Spears x5 -- 175
Exarch -- 47
Total -- 222


//Heavy

Falcon -- 115
Twin Linked Shuriken Catapult
Bright Lance -- 30
Spirit Stones -- 10
Holo Field -- 15
Total -- 170

Fire Prism -- 115
Shuriken Cannon -- 10
Holo Field -- 35
Total -- 160

Wraithlord -- 90
Two Flamers
Scatter Laser -- 20
Brightlance -- 40
Total -- 150

Wraithguard have to be ten and a warlock to count as troops. otherwise they are elites.

also harliquins can only be group of 5 minimum. Also Fire Prisms are better in groups of two.


Now onto your actual idea behind your list. I cannot see it. Your list is to varied, it isnt going with any imparticular theme. This list obviously hasnt been well thought out as theres multiple mistakes, and lack of theme.

My theme is to be as fast as possible, being able to take out all heavies, lots of fire power and power weapons in close combat.


I fixed the Wraith Guard error and removed the Harlequins because I haven't had any luck with them so far.

Hows it look now?


//HQ

Eldrad Ulthran -- 210

Avatar of Khaine -- 155


//Troops

Wraith Guard x10 -- 350
Warlock -- 25
Destructor -- 10
Spiritseer -- 6
Singing Spear -- 3
Total -- 391

Guardian Jetbike x4 -- 88
Warlock -- 45
Destructor -- 10
Singing Spear -- 3
Total -- 146


//Fast

Warp Spiders x6 -- 132
Warp Spider Exarch -- 34
Additional Death Spinner -- 5
Powerblades -- 10
Withdrawal -- 15
Total -- 196

Shining Spears x4 -- 210
Exarch -- 47
Total -- 257


//Heavy

Falcon -- 115
Twin Linked Shuriken Catapult
Bright Lance -- 30
Spirit Stones -- 10
Holo Field -- 35
Total -- 170

Fire Prism -- 115
Shuriken Cannon -- 10
Holo Field -- 35
Spirit Stones -- 10
Total -- 170

Wraithlord -- 90
Two Flamers
Scatter Laser -- 20
Brightlance -- 40
Total -- 150

Your shining spears squad is too big, you can only have 5 spears including the exarch. You would be much better served by dropping the spears and adding a unit of firedragons in a wave serpent.

The falcon isnt one of the eldars best heavy slot choices, its a bit over priced since its a transport as well as a heavy tank....and you arent using it for its transport ability at all. You also have the falcon holofield as only costing 15 points, its not that cheap.

If you swap in another WL for the falcon then you have the core of an elfzilla list, a lot of high toughness models that are difficult to kill.


Sliggoth

I fixed the holo field error and the Shining Spears, but:

- I wanted to keep the spears because they have power weapons if they are striking first and it seems like Eldar have high initiative.

- the reason I want to keep the Falcon is because it has multiple weapons, like the shuriken cannon and the pulse laser.

Some parts are good some aren't. While most of it's constituent parts are good, they don't compliment each other.

I would swap all you Heavy Support for Wraithlords. On the Wraithlord you do have, Scatter Laser and BL don't belong together. I would suggest Scatter Laser and Wraithsword or Bright Lance and EML.

I figure the Wraithlord as being a multipurpose heavy...

He can kill tanks as well as infantry.

the wraith guard and wraithlord are incredibly slow compared to the rest of your army. If your going mech drop them and get a second fire prism and a mounted dire avenger squad. Also drop the falcon and avatar, then buy a unit of Fire Dragons and put them in a wave serpent.

if your going monstrous core, drop the falcon and fire prism, get two more wraithlords. Drop the Wraithguard and get a unit of storm guardians with a spiritseer. this is a cheap unit that can plod along with your wraithlords and avatar, stopping wraithsight + you can put eldrad in them and keep fortuning the avatar.

your list is like two different lists smashed into each other, thats going to make you suffer, one fire prism and one wraithlord dont compliment each other and dont work well with each other, however two fire prisms or three wraithlords work really well.

your army is not complimenting each other its not going to work until you decide if you want to be mechnised, or monstrous core.


you said you wanted to keep the Falcon because it had multiple weapons, but that is a poor reason sorry. It's BS three which means half those weapons will miss, and it can only shoot them all if it moves six inches or less. Which is silly in a fast skimmer tank. The falcon has become a niche unit for delivering Fire Dragons, and even then it only performs slightly better than a wave serpent. Whilst costing alot more.

Well, two troop units in 1850 pts is a bit less, even if you field a large Wraithguard squad.
There are enemies out there wit lots of template weapons like IG that can annihilate your Wraithguard within a few rounds.

Hows this?


//HQ
Eldrad Ulthran
Avatar of Khaine

//
Troops
Wraith Guard x10
Warlock
Destructor
Spiritseer
Singing Spear

Guardian Jetbike x3
Warlock
Destructor
Singing Spear

Guardian Jetbike x3
Warlock
Destructor
Singing Spear


//Elites

Howling Banshees x9
Exarch
Executioner
Acrobatic


//Fast Attack

Warp Spiders x6
Warp Spider Exarch
Additional Death Spinner


//Heavy Support

Wraithlord
Two Shuriken Catapults
Scatter Laser
Brightlance

Wraithlord
Two Shuriken Catapults
Scatter Laser
Brightlance

Fire Prism
Shuriken Cannon
Holo Field
Spirit Stones


//Theory
Eldrad will attach with the Banshees, use Doom, Fortune and Guide to destroy enemy units in close combat

Jetbikes and Wraithguard will work in unison to take out units from mid range

Warp Spiders will provided lots of cover fire to the Banshees

Wraithlords and the Prism Cannon will still and the back and use long range heavy weapons

The avatar will go where ever he is needed.

Guide doesnt work on melee attacks.

How exactly do the bikes and Wraitguard work together.

To be honest I'd cut the wraithguard, they are overly expensive for their killing power.

Dont make your Wraithlords identical. Make one wraithlord Pure anti infantry and the other pure at. so make one BL + EML and the other Scatter laser and Star cannon. Otherwise everyturn your wasting half the Wraithlords weaponry.

I dont think one Fire Prism is worth it. I'd cut it completely. Cut the wraithguard as well and you might be able to afford two units of Dire Avengers in Transports.


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also swap destructor on your guardians for embolden. Those jetbikes dont want to be close enough to something to use destructor, as close range rapid fire or combat will be able to get them and bring them down. Embolden will allow them to take a wound and statistically not run that often.