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Made in au
Killer Klaivex






Forever alone

With the plethora of younger singers and celebrities flooding the entertainment industry, I can't help but wonder if *any* of them are going to be remembered as well as the older celebrities; Monty Python, the Beatles, and Sean Connery are very well-known and are obviously going to remembered for a long time, but what of all these plastic pop stars and perpetually grinning actors?

I sure hope nobody remembers the Jonas Brothers or bloody Miley Cyrus. I think Paris Hilton is trying to be remembered by being Hollywood's biggest whore. Not what I'd want to be remembered for.

People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. 
   
Made in us
Dwarf High King with New Book of Grudges




United States

One thing to keep in mind is that celebrity is far more ubiquitous then it once was. The sheer volume of television makes it much easier to remember a person due to their presence as a visual object.

Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh. 
   
Made in gb
Major





Quite frankly we can’t say.

But one thing I do know and I would be prepared to stake large quantities of money on this, That had the internet existed in the 60's then Guaranteed it would have been stacked full of people saying the Beatles/Stones/Doors/Led Zeppelin suck and that no one will remember them in 5 years. I also know that the majority of music in the 60's was cringe inducing tripe (listen to a typical afternoon on Radio 2 if you don't believe me) and thanks to our selective memories we only really recall the few acts who were actually any good.

Claiming your preferred musical decade is much better than today is usually just down to a very selective memory.

"And if we've learnt anything over the past 1000 mile retreat it's that Russian agriculture is in dire need of mechanisation!" 
   
Made in au
The Dread Evil Lord Varlak





The other thing worth remembering is that a lot of artists start out cranking out utterly forgettable crap but go on to made genuine contributions. Sure, most just spend their time as an idol of the tween market then fade away, but sometimes something genuinely good comes out of something genuinely forgetable.

The other thing to remember is that it isn't the best craftsmen that are always remembered. Certain people some up how we see an era or a movement. Britney Spears didn't sing anything that'll change anyone's thoughts about anything, but she's iconic.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
Made in gb
Preacher of the Emperor






Manchester, UK

Part of the trouble with music is the sheer speed at which band/singers get thrust into the limelight these days.

This is mostly the fault of the music industry for not adapting to the advent of the internet. I can remember downloading music as early as 1996, sure it was rubbish quality but, it was do-able.

The industries response on the face of it was to try and sue anyone who illegally downloaded music, something they're only just beginning to have any success with.

The suits far more insidious response has been to scour the internet and, as soon as they spot a band with a catchy tune, sign them up on a crappy deal, market the heck out of them so they make a return on their investment then, when the band is all used up, discard them like a chocolate wrapper.

I have worked around the music indusrty for a goodly amount of time now and have lost count of the number of bands who have been exploited in this manner. One of the worst things i have seen is the number of managers who spend all their time shoving powder up their noses whilst spreading the bands accounts over a few different companies. When the band inevitably gets dropped, they discover that the manager has run up horrendous debts meaning that they don't even get paid for their fifteen minutes.

It used to be the case that a group would get a few years to hone their craft playing at smaller venues before they were thrust into the limelight. Because of the small turnover time between 'the next big thing' we, the listeners, are simply presented with yet another cut&paste indie/emo/rock/solo band.

No wonder they are so forgettable!

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