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Hey, need some pointers on this list, i'm going to go to my first Warhammer Fantasy Grand Tournament later this year and want to take my high elves, would take my beloved wood elves but i know it would just devolve into a drycha list because we all know how lovely she is.

Any back to the point decided on high elves and I am going with a strong Caledorian theme (even though i'm painting em purple) the basic plan is to have a solid firebase (as shown by the archers and RBT) and then split up the army into 2 squads of a Dragon, Chariot and DP unit to smash any enemy formations i may come across, lately though I have been playing with a fairly balanced High Elf list and am unsure on any of the harsher power builds but being as its my first tourny 2 Dragons seem fun and hopefully should cause at least a little grief, even to daemon players.

Anyway I look forward to all the Comments and Crits and as always they are most welcome, the list isn't set in stone yet so tear it up and re write as you see fit guys!

And the extra archers are there purely because I had 33pts left over.

High Elf Prince: Star Dragon, Vambraces of Defence, Armour of Caledor, Amulet of Light, Halberd: 621pts

Dragon Mage of Caledor: 2x Dispel Scrolls, Silver Wand: 400pts

11 Archers: 121pts

12 Archers: 132pts

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor: 150pts

5 Dragon Princes of Caledor: 150pts

Tiranoc Chariot: 85pts

Lion Chariot of Chrace: 140pts

2x Repeater Bolt Throwers: 200pts

1999pts

No one at all?

Hi,

First off, cool list

As far as effectiveness goes, it doesn't seem like one mage (counting as a lvl 3 and with a free dice for rolls if I remember right?) is going to do much :/. I've heard this called the ultimate glass cannon... he can put out damage but can't take any. I was set on taking one because I had obtained two dragons, but after reading a lot online I have decided against it.

If you divide into two halves/flanks, the side with the dragon mage is going to be a lot weaker, since he can't really get into combat on his own.

You know this already, but I just thought I'd point it out... since it's probably the largest weakness in the list from what I've read. It would be fun, though

Yeh I pretty much figured this. I'd heard good things about the Drouble Dragon list though and I wanted to go with a strong Caledorian theme purely because Dragon Princes are my favourite unit in the entire army and 2 dragons if played right could be devastating.

tbh if the mage dies I am not going to cry too much as long as the dragon stays alive.

This might be another great place to get feedback (there is a double dragon list up that was similar to yours, but he dropped a unit of DP):

http://www.ulthuan.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=4

I thought this was going to be a thread about an army fielding two special characters named Jimmy and Billy who are excellent in combat.

Its not mentioned, did you buy second level for your mage?

What is the other dragon to do? If the dragons are used together to slam into a unit there need not be a Star Dragon, you can save lots of points by downgrading. Two dragons of any type will be enough for a frontal attack against a normal unit. Star Dragons are worth the money, but you can have a larger army than this.

Why a halberd? Lances are best, you ought to crush the enemy on the charge. Your character is also overinsured with items, there are far cheaper combos that are nearly as good.

Finally bolt throwers are good but are anchors in a very mobile list. I would buy eagles instead.

Archers should be 10 with musician. Sure points left over, but get musicians first, then add.

Dragon Princes should have champions, thus if they support the characters in a fight they can accept dangerous or trap challenges.

Halberd is mainly there for permanent Str 5 instead of Str 6 then downgrading,I know I should be breaking stuff on the charge but it is just incase I do get trapped.

What combos would you recommend for him? Or just drop the Amulet?

99MDeery, I like your combo on the prince, I've seen this often and it is also the one I plan to use!

If you had one more point you could get the standard of Ellyrion (drop 3 archers plus the point you have left, upgrade a DP to standard bearer and buy it for him) so you could move a unit of DP through terrain without penalty.

I disagree on the bolt throwers, since you must take the two units of archers, you might as well have some decent shooting to back them up!! You'll need the Amulet since you don't have any other magical attacks (unless the dragon mage gets something off).

The Bolt throwers are pasting over a weakness, and adding points into a rear line that shouldnt really be there. The archers are mandatory, points over the minimum added to your shooting assets are points wasted in this list. If you had spearelves it would be different.

The item combo on the prince does work, but it is woefully expensive.
I would take a Sun Dragon, Star Lance, Dragon armour, shield, helm or gauntlets. Its a lot cheaper and you still get to chariot chop at S7.

Yes the loadout you listed is 'better' but how much more does it cost, a lot yes. Too much in my opinion.

Amulet of Light can now be reallocated to a champion in a Dragon prince unit. Now you have multiple options for Ethereal bashing.

To be honest I can see Orlanths point, 200pts is alot to play around with, taking out the extra 33 pts I can add in alot of things, I can give the Dragon Mage the extra magic level and add in another 5 Dragon Princes and a Great Eagle.

I might have a play around with that actually.

I didn't realize the dragon mage didn't have the extra lvl! I definitely would give him that, even if you have to drop something else!

We can go even cheaper on the Prince.

I included Star Lance in order to get the S7 the star dragon has. However unless you are facing tomb kings you dont really need that. A mass of S5 and S6 attacks ought to do in chariots.

You could therefore forgo the Star Lance and take an ordinary lance and return the Amulet of Light to the Prince.

Does this save yopu enough points for something useful, if not go with the old combo.

Well after all the advicefrom you guys (thanks again) I will take what has been said into consideration, tomorrow night I am playing a mates daemon list (led by a KoS called Gladdis, work that out) for some GT practice.

Is what I will do is run the list as is for the moment, play that game (lose badly as its daemons) and then see what performed and what didn't and consider the changes to be made. In all honesty I was thinking of reverting back to my old Star Dragon Lord (Vambraces, Star Lance, Dragon Armor, Shield) but with a KoS flying about the place as well i'd rather at least have a 6+ re rollable if it comes to combat with the bloody thing, I'm hoping I can nail it with my Bolt Throwers before it becomes too much of a problem.

If I remember I will take my camera and remember to take some pics of the battle and do a quick report.

Still once again everyone thats for all the advice.

Good idea! Post up how it goes, either a bat rep or here (if it's a bat rep please put a link here so that we can find it )