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Looking for a good tactic to beat Space Marines. Looking for a good Tau or Space Marine tactic against him. My opponent is a friend who has an over 2k army which includes:
1 Land raider
1 Rhinos w/ storm bolter
1 Chapter master w/ lightning claws and jump pack
1 Captain w/ power sword and storm bolter
1 Chaplin w/ CCW and bolt pistol
1 Apothecary
1 Standard Bearer
1 Tech Marine w/ Servo Claw, CCW, and pistol
2 Veteran Sergeants with power weapons and pistols
1 Veteran Sergeant w/ Power Fist and pistol
1 Veteran Sergeant w/pistol and chainsword
1 Veteran Sergeant w/ bolter and auspex
5 Terminators 3 w/ power fist and storm bolter 1 w/ fist and heavy flammer 1 w/ storm bolter and power sword
2 Land speeder assualt cannon variants
1 Drednought with Twin-linked lascannon,
1 Drednought CC Claw, and storm bolter
1 Predator w/ turret auto cannon + 2 side lascannons + storm bolter
1 MK3 Whirlwind
1 Land raider w/ 2 side sponson twin-linked lascannons, twin linked heavy bolter, storm bolter, and hunter killer missile
24 Tactical Marines with bolters 2 with lascannons 2 with melta guns 2 w/ plasma guns 2 w/ flammers
3 Scouts with CCW and pistol, 2 with sniper rifles

Playing Orks I assume? (from your signature)

Not to be rude, but if you could explain how your friend tends to play his marines, and what your army is typically doing while getting shot up, it would be easier for people to answer you question.

He says he focuses more on his shooting turn more then anything else but i couldn't tell you anymore than that. I only ever played him once and we're both not that experienced so i can't really say much more than that.

Well from models you posted, it looks like he has very little close combat ability and relys mostly on his armored vehicles and has not drop pods?

SO facing off from him you have no fear of pods closing in on him, against this list you are probably better bringing a good assault army or a good tank busting list, or a combo of both, If playing space marines you can just put sternguard in drop pods with combi meltas and a sgt with a power fist, so you can pop his tanks with the combi meltas and then charge him in close combat with them or just use there superior fire power to kill off his troops, not much he can do against them expecially if you put pedro kantor with them or a caiptain with a relic blade, bring predators with las cannons and devistator squads, things of that nature. It looks like he has a kind of well rounded pick of troops but nothing extremly scary or overly hard hitting and only 5 terminators to worry about. SO anything hard hitting and ap 2 is the way to go, like plasma cannons and las cannons should do very well against his list.

With tau you could just use broad side battle suits and deep strike in crisis suits with the fusion guns probably take alot of his armor out pretty quick and them move on to the marine squads with no transports and very little fire power coming back at you. Good luck

Are you guys playing with more than 1 Force Organization Chart? I see more than 2 HQ, more than 3 Elites, and more sergeants than tactical marines (and special weapons). Unless you're just listing what he owns to draw his army lists from, you must either be playing Apocalypse or not following the normal rules.

What would help is knowing which of the listed models he actually fields.

I believe he posted what the total model count his opponent has to field on any occasion and may make different armies within the pool of modles he has, and is looking for general tactics verses the models he has with a standard game and using regular force org chart if I am not mistaken. ALso he stated he has access to space marines and tau and is looking for advice on how to make a general list and tactics with either force to beat a armie with access to the models posted.

Yes we don't usually play with all the models...those are just the ones he has to choose from.

And now the final questions; what army do YOU play? What units do you have available? How do you like to play?

This entire thread is completely pointless unless you tell us that. Kinda strange you didn't think of that yourself.

As you are asking for Tau and Marine tactics, and have Orks in your sig, it isn't that easy.

I specifically said Tau or Space Marine Tactic....

Tau:
Fusion/Plasma Suits.

Yeah, that's your only good anti-MEQ option.

Railguns + Markerlights for AT.

For Space Marines try a standard dread in a drop pod on your first turn drop it right next to (or on read the rules for drop pods carefully) his best tank and melta it to death. Sterngaurd are a good choice as well rapid fired vengance rounds really upset marines.

The Strange Dude wrote:For Space Marines try a standard dread in a drop pod on your first turn drop it right next to (or on read the rules for drop pods carefully) his best tank and melta it to death. Sterngaurd are a good choice as well rapid fired vengance rounds really upset marines.

Can't drop onto it, but it can scatter onto it then get reduced enough to be 1" away. I imobilised a Land Raider Redemer filled with Assault Terminators first turn. Almost did it with the Dreadnought, but it didn't get the correct rolls on the damage chart. What imobilised it was a Vindicator in my deployment zone (Drove 6" forward, I went second and the LRR drove 12" forward). But both the Drop Pod and the Dreadnought slowed stuff around it down and occasionally stopped the LRR from shooting (actually kind of good seeing as my AoBR Dreadnought seems to be extremely unlucky (Almost never hits)).