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So I love the MIG and Doc O'Briens pigments. Problem is MIG is pricey and Doc doesn't sell their pigments individually. So I went on a google search and found this place in Arizona selling french pigments. http://www.earthpigments.com/products/pigments-by-color.cfm
Wonder what pigments can do for modeling? Most common is weathering.
www.earthpigments.com wont kill your wallet if you want to try your hand at Dry Pigments and potentially add a new technique to your arsenal.
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That looks pretty badass. Especially that rust on the first one.
I might pick some of those up.
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Dry Pigment is what is in your paint. Just no vehicle (vehicle= water in water based paint but in old days they use to use egg or milk.) You make it stick with alcohol and once varnished it's just like any paint.
User GMMstudios uses MIG dry pigments on his stuff masterfully for wonderful weathering effects. Check out his Adepticon Eldar. I'd post his pictures but I'd rather he did.
You can if you want to make paint, mix with a vehicle. But using it as a powder has its own benefits. Real rust has a powder texture. What better way to simulate powder texture with.... powder.
I've used various earth toned pastel art chalks for this for years.
Still using the same 3 or 4 sticks I started with several years ago. I just rub them on some sand paper to make a fine powder (a few chunks can work for adding dirt too). And mix it with rubbing alcohol.
Tourquoise also works great for doing verdigris on copper based alloys too (and thats not a color available in most weathering kits :( )
@LBursley. can i suggest doing a video tutorial of using this stuff and putting it on youtube. i think it would make an excellent addition to your collection and provide some visual to those of who good at visualizing things (like me sometimes)
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Basically turns to paint if stirred up very well. I make rust washes adding 3 drops of water to my mix tray and whatever I pull out with my brush. Semi fixes the pigment to the model but leaves the chunks of color in random spots. If you have ever used Vallejo Smoke it's about the same grittiness as that.
Mistress of minis wrote:Hmmm, now Im curious how this stuff would work mixed with a regular acrylic medium...
I've used MIG pigments mixed with water, glaze medium or matte varnish, they work pretty well. the first two tend to work a bit slower and give you more time to get the effect you want, the advantage with varnish is it sticks to the model pretty well without anything else needing done to it.
Nice tutorial Les Did you go extra heavy with the rust for the demo, or is that the look you wanted?
And an artsy tip, you can use hairspray as a fixative too. It works for regualr art pastel and charcoal drawings, and if you're weathering an entire tank can be faster than the alcohol. A light spritz doesnt affect applying a clear coat. Id stay away from the products for high volume/bed head type of looks, they might leave too much goop on the model.
Hi! Yeah I went heavy on the rust because I knew the alcohol was going to carry a lot of it downward. I thought of using the hair spray but I stay away from it. When I used pastels I use to just water down some medium and lay it on the area I wanted the stuff to stick. It worked good on my dread in testing.
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Very inspirational - I've seen it used, but I always assumed it was a difficult process, your video shows otherwise! I'm weathering a dread at the moment, and I'm now seriously considering picking some up (powder or pastel - whichever is cheaper! ).
What colours would experienced powder-ers recommend for concrete dust? just grey? (My models have city ruin bases)
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The pastel chalks usually come in sets at art supply stores and are pretty cheap. I picked mine up about 6 years ago and it was about 8$ for 12 sticks.
It's a fantastic process, but I'm not sure about the application... The Imperium would never allow their weapons and tanks to reach such levels of disrepair... infact they would be shot for it.
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What a coincidence - I was just looking them up - I assume soft pastels are the go, rather than oil pastels (which I imagine won't powder as easily)?
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Andy Frogman wrote:It's a fantastic process, but I'm not sure about the application... The Imperium would never allow their weapons and tanks to reach such levels of disrepair... infact they would be shot for it.
maybe so but nobody can keep war machines running perfectly forever so some wear is to be expected even with the imperium. imo that is.
thanks for the vid very helpful. now i pretty much know what to do without having to destroy one of my models to learn how.(i dont have trash models i love all equally )
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ive seen http://www.earthpigments.com/products/pigments-by-color.cfm before and i like there pricing. However i was never sure of what colors to order that coincide with migs rust colors. Do you know what colors would represent old rust and new rust...along with some of the other more popular weathering colors ?
(and thats not a color available in most weathering kits :( )
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